Why do you buy fast lenses/cameras?

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Michael Fryd
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Re: Why do you buy fast lenses/cameras?

sportyaccordy wrote:

Michael Fryd wrote:

sportyaccordy wrote:


Cameras are the main if not only reason people are upgrading their phones these days, which is why phone companies are pouring so much R&D money into them. Performance otherwise is more than good enough and has been for years.

Do you have a source for this claim?

Off hand, none of my friends who have upgraded their smartphones have done so in order to get a better camera.

While a better camera is certainly one reason for upgrading a smart phone, it is not the only reason.

Well I know people who have upgraded phones just to get better cameras. That's the problem with anecdotes.

Newer smart phones have

  • Faster network connections
  • Faster processors for better gaming experience
  • Bigger screens
  • Better and easier security (i.e. fingerprint sensors or face ID)
  • More storage
  • Better battery life
  • Better cameras
  • etc.

While it may be true that better cameras are the primary reason most people upgrade, I would be surprised if that's the case.

A lot of these just aren't true. 5G is not widely available yet and network connections are faster for everybody. Most games are casual and well within the performance envelope of older phones. Screens are getting SMALLER thanks to aspect ratio changes. Storage hasn't budged much. Etc. But camera development is big.

I guess we have different experiences. I just upgraded my phone. My son is going off to college and I wanted him to have a model that's recent enough to run current software.

My new phone get's noticeably faster wi-fi and cellular data speeds. I suspect part of that is that the new phone has a better cellular modem, and the new phone has a faster processor.

My guess would be that most people upgrade because their old phone broke, or no longer seems to work well. The vast array of new features make the high price easier to tolerate.

Per feature, phones have never been cheaper. And let's not confuse replacements with upgrades. If someone's discontinued old phone breaks and they get a current model, sure they "upgraded", but only because they had no other choice. I am talking about people buying new phones they don't need.

Yes. If you are going to limit the conversation to people who are buying new phones they don't need because they want a better camera, then we are going to see a very high percentage of people who bought the phone because of the camera.

Remember, not all smart phones have the same camera systems. If cameras really were the primary force in phone sales, we wouldn't expect to see very many sales in any model that didn't have the latest and greatest camera.

See previous point. Also phone users are not a monolith.

Absolutely correct. However, if you are going to make the claim that cameras are the primary motivation for upgrades, (and not a failure of the existing phone), the you are accepting that there are some sort of general trends.

The smartphone market will continue to grow, as it becomes capable of filling in additional segments of consumer demand. However, there will always be some sort of specialty market for higher end cameras that can do tasks the typical consumer just doesn't need.

For sure, I am pretty sure I have said as much.

My only point about smartphones is that there are a sizable number of phone buyers interested in phone camera IQ who can and do buy new phones just for the better cameras. This is evident in the investment being made into phone cameras by phone makers, phone accessory makers, and the increasing interest in phone photography by camera and tech media.

It depends on what you mean by "sizable" and "interested".

Certainly most smartphone buyers are interested in the smartphone camera, but that is not the same as the camera is the primary drive to their purchasing decision.

In terms of sizable, most people are buying a new smartphone because of an issue with their old one.  Compared to that, the number of people who replace a perfectly good phone specifically to get a better camera, is quite small.

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