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Yeah, but something should be in focus if that is the case. and in his image the entire photo is blurred from far distant to close up and everything in between. That implies, to me, either a movement issue or something impairing the optical performance of the lens such as haze, condensation, I was able to get a similar result by breathing on the lens and then shooting before the surface cleared.I've seen this, when my lens was set to MF and I thought that it was on AF. Really.
No, at that focal length, with the subject(s) that far away, if the focus is just a few feet in front of the lens, then the whole image will be OOF.Yeah, but something should be in focus if that is the case. and in his image the entire photo is blurred from far distant to close up and everything in between. That implies, to me, either a movement issue or something impairing the optical performance of the lens such as haze, condensation, I was able to get a similar result by breathing on the lens and then shooting before the surface cleared.I've seen this, when my lens was set to MF and I thought that it was on AF. Really.
If his lens was set to manual focus it is clear it was not focused at infinity, and if it were set to 15 feet, everything further away would be much further out of focus. In between those parameters, I would expect something between foreground and the fence to be sharper.
Ah yes, but the background banner would be unreadable. This was clearly not focused in the foreground. The distant out of focus area would be essentially nothing but blur at 280mm if the focus is say at 15 feet. Everything in the image appears to be just about uniformly out of focus regardless of whether it is the back fence or the foreground grass and dirt.No, at that focal length, with the subject(s) that far away, if the focus is just a few feet in front of the lens, then the whole image will be OOF.Yeah, but something should be in focus if that is the case. and in his image the entire photo is blurred from far distant to close up and everything in between. That implies, to me, either a movement issue or something impairing the optical performance of the lens such as haze, condensation, I was able to get a similar result by breathing on the lens and then shooting before the surface cleared.I've seen this, when my lens was set to MF and I thought that it was on AF. Really.
If his lens was set to manual focus it is clear it was not focused at infinity, and if it were set to 15 feet, everything further away would be much further out of focus. In between those parameters, I would expect something between foreground and the fence to be sharper.
As I stated you do not bolt on a telephoto and immediately start shooting tack sharp photos if you have not used long lenses previously.OK, after testing again it had to be user error. I must have placed the tc on the camera first or not secured it all the way. Much better results this time.
Steady shot does not matter with sony lens. I tested with and without and saw no difference.
These shots are both with the t.c. on 70-200 2.8 gm
No editing has been done. I just converted the raw images to jpeg.
Im happier with results. Still working on it though.
Thanks for all the input.
I would not use silent shutter for action like this. I'd use EFCS.As I stated you do not bolt on a telephoto and immediately start shooting tack sharp photos if you have not used long lenses previously.OK, after testing again it had to be user error. I must have placed the tc on the camera first or not secured it all the way. Much better results this time.
Steady shot does not matter with sony lens. I tested with and without and saw no difference.
These shots are both with the t.c. on 70-200 2.8 gm
No editing has been done. I just converted the raw images to jpeg.
Im happier with results. Still working on it though.
Thanks for all the input.
Everything is magnified greatly especially poor technique and special care needs to be used for good results.
1. Steady shot should be off
2. Tripod for best results and weight it down if necessary
3. Silent shutter
4. Proper shutter speeds to avoid blur
5. Cable or remote wireless release or even timer release
6. Extreme care in focus use focus mag 12x when able
7. Pay attention to wind or ground vibrations from any source
8. Use the setting on super tele that is best for the action you are shooting 1,2 or 3
I am sure I am forgetting one or two but in my experience most of my failures have had to do with too low of a shutter speed or inaccurate focus and forgetting to use silent shutter.
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True Jim, I do not either. I was trying to quickly off the cuff summarize some good practices for a novice but should have explained in better detail.I would not use silent shutter for action like this. I'd use EFCS.As I stated you do not bolt on a telephoto and immediately start shooting tack sharp photos if you have not used long lenses previously.OK, after testing again it had to be user error. I must have placed the tc on the camera first or not secured it all the way. Much better results this time.
Steady shot does not matter with sony lens. I tested with and without and saw no difference.
These shots are both with the t.c. on 70-200 2.8 gm
No editing has been done. I just converted the raw images to jpeg.
Im happier with results. Still working on it though.
Thanks for all the input.
Everything is magnified greatly especially poor technique and special care needs to be used for good results.
1. Steady shot should be off
2. Tripod for best results and weight it down if necessary
3. Silent shutter
4. Proper shutter speeds to avoid blur
5. Cable or remote wireless release or even timer release
6. Extreme care in focus use focus mag 12x when able
7. Pay attention to wind or ground vibrations from any source
8. Use the setting on super tele that is best for the action you are shooting 1,2 or 3
I am sure I am forgetting one or two but in my experience most of my failures have had to do with too low of a shutter speed or inaccurate focus and forgetting to use silent shutter.
I would not try to shoot sports with a cable or remote wireless release. Certainly not with the self-timer.
Not a "Novice".True Jim, I do not either. I was trying to quickly off the cuff summarize some good practices for a novice but should have explained in better detail.I would not use silent shutter for action like this. I'd use EFCS.As I stated you do not bolt on a telephoto and immediately start shooting tack sharp photos if you have not used long lenses previously.OK, after testing again it had to be user error. I must have placed the tc on the camera first or not secured it all the way. Much better results this time.
Steady shot does not matter with sony lens. I tested with and without and saw no difference.
These shots are both with the t.c. on 70-200 2.8 gm
No editing has been done. I just converted the raw images to jpeg.
Im happier with results. Still working on it though.
Thanks for all the input.
Everything is magnified greatly especially poor technique and special care needs to be used for good results.
1. Steady shot should be off
2. Tripod for best results and weight it down if necessary
3. Silent shutter
4. Proper shutter speeds to avoid blur
5. Cable or remote wireless release or even timer release
6. Extreme care in focus use focus mag 12x when able
7. Pay attention to wind or ground vibrations from any source
8. Use the setting on super tele that is best for the action you are shooting 1,2 or 3
I am sure I am forgetting one or two but in my experience most of my failures have had to do with too low of a shutter speed or inaccurate focus and forgetting to use silent shutter.
I would not try to shoot sports with a cable or remote wireless release. Certainly not with the self-timer.
It is kind of hard to use a timer or cable release for BIF if you hope to have the bird in the frame
Did not mean to offend you sorry if I did but at first glance it was only your 6th post and you were having difficulty with a 70-200mm lens I thought you were new at this.Not a "Novice".True Jim, I do not either. I was trying to quickly off the cuff summarize some good practices for a novice but should have explained in better detail.I would not use silent shutter for action like this. I'd use EFCS.As I stated you do not bolt on a telephoto and immediately start shooting tack sharp photos if you have not used long lenses previously.OK, after testing again it had to be user error. I must have placed the tc on the camera first or not secured it all the way. Much better results this time.
Steady shot does not matter with sony lens. I tested with and without and saw no difference.
These shots are both with the t.c. on 70-200 2.8 gm
No editing has been done. I just converted the raw images to jpeg.
Im happier with results. Still working on it though.
Thanks for all the input.
Everything is magnified greatly especially poor technique and special care needs to be used for good results.
1. Steady shot should be off
2. Tripod for best results and weight it down if necessary
3. Silent shutter
4. Proper shutter speeds to avoid blur
5. Cable or remote wireless release or even timer release
6. Extreme care in focus use focus mag 12x when able
7. Pay attention to wind or ground vibrations from any source
8. Use the setting on super tele that is best for the action you are shooting 1,2 or 3
I am sure I am forgetting one or two but in my experience most of my failures have had to do with too low of a shutter speed or inaccurate focus and forgetting to use silent shutter.
I would not try to shoot sports with a cable or remote wireless release. Certainly not with the self-timer.
It is kind of hard to use a timer or cable release for BIF if you hope to have the bird in the frame
I still feel your images are not as sharp as they could be and wonder if perhaps your teleconverter is the problem. Here is an image I took at a bike race, hand held, at 200mm at perhaps about the same distance that you are shooting from.OK, after testing again it had to be user error. I must have placed the tc on the camera first or not secured it all the way. Much better results this time.
Steady shot does not matter with sony lens. I tested with and without and saw no difference.
These shots are both with the t.c. on 70-200 2.8 gm
No editing has been done. I just converted the raw images to jpeg.
Im happier with results. Still working on it though.
Thanks for all the input.
Same for any lens and camera, if you're shooting at a high shutter speed. AFAIK the reason why some people turn it on for BIF and stuff like that is to steady the viewfinder to make it easier to track the subjectOK, after testing again it had to be user error. I must have placed the tc on the camera first or not secured it all the way. Much better results this time.
Steady shot does not matter with sony lens. I tested with and without and saw no difference.
Cool.Did not mean to offend you sorry if I did but at first glance it was only your 6th post and you were having difficulty with a 70-200mm lens I thought you were new at this.Not a "Novice".True Jim, I do not either. I was trying to quickly off the cuff summarize some good practices for a novice but should have explained in better detail.I would not use silent shutter for action like this. I'd use EFCS.As I stated you do not bolt on a telephoto and immediately start shooting tack sharp photos if you have not used long lenses previously.OK, after testing again it had to be user error. I must have placed the tc on the camera first or not secured it all the way. Much better results this time.
Steady shot does not matter with sony lens. I tested with and without and saw no difference.
These shots are both with the t.c. on 70-200 2.8 gm
No editing has been done. I just converted the raw images to jpeg.
Im happier with results. Still working on it though.
Thanks for all the input.
Everything is magnified greatly especially poor technique and special care needs to be used for good results.
1. Steady shot should be off
2. Tripod for best results and weight it down if necessary
3. Silent shutter
4. Proper shutter speeds to avoid blur
5. Cable or remote wireless release or even timer release
6. Extreme care in focus use focus mag 12x when able
7. Pay attention to wind or ground vibrations from any source
8. Use the setting on super tele that is best for the action you are shooting 1,2 or 3
I am sure I am forgetting one or two but in my experience most of my failures have had to do with too low of a shutter speed or inaccurate focus and forgetting to use silent shutter.
I would not try to shoot sports with a cable or remote wireless release. Certainly not with the self-timer.
It is kind of hard to use a timer or cable release for BIF if you hope to have the bird in the frame
Also my post was not just for you but all the readers of this thread.
I had trouble with my first telephoto and found out on this forum some of the things I was doing wrong and did not know. I shared what I have learned to help others that is how this is supposed to work.
Please give your FE 2.0x teleconverter another chance. I'm very pleased with mine.
I am not a fan of the 2x tc but I need to give it another try with proper dfine2 or LR I have seen some pretty amazing images.