Canon EOS RP sales nosedive in Japan

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XeroJay Senior Member • Posts: 2,015
Re: Canon EOS RP+R keeper FF sales #1+#2 in Japan (Sony A7III = #1 FF dumper (buy+dump)

rrc1967 wrote:

diness wrote:

PhozoKozmos wrote:

jay-A wrote:

mcslsk wrote:

WSteveP wrote:

Article blames lack of native lenses. However given the compatability of EF lenses (with adapter) I'm not sure that would be the reason.

I wonder how sales are in north America and Europe.


Canon will need to get the transition of their core customers, i.e. those who use their cameras to make a living, right. All else is peanuts. The R is a good start.

I don't get your logic - this is a small number of users, so what is really the point in getting these to transition while the rest massively switch to Sony?

  • the trend is Sony A7III is the #1 dumped FF MILC on record

This shows used sales not dumps, it’s still being sold, just in used form. Obviously it has far more used bodies out there because it’s older... it’s not rocket science

actually, I think you explain that away way too quickly and easily without much reason.

If the A7 III which has only been out for less than 2 years, is also the highest ranked used camera in terms of sale, that strikes me as a bit of a problem.

that would indicate that there are more people trying the A7 III and turning around and selling it off, versus other brands for instance, selling off used cameras to buy into the A7 series.

Now if there was an A7 IV out already then seeing a large amount of used A7 III"s would make alot of sense. it really doesn't make alot of sense when it's the current version of the camera.

However I haven't see PK's data, I've only seen data from MapCamera that had used and retail sales, and the A7 III has been top on used since it almost came out.

for example:

this was from June 2017, and we see that the 6D and 5D Mark III are the top used cameras. makes sense. the 5D Mark IV and the 6D Mark II have been announced / rumored.

a little later in the year

we see that the 6D is now the top used, and the 6D Mark II is the top sold. Again, makes sense.

We scoot forward a year and again, the chart makes sense:

the A7 III top seller and the A7 II up near the top as well.

fast forward to when both the EOS R and Nikon Z6 are both out and shipping;

and we see a curious change; the A7 III is now being sold off.

in January of this year, same thing, the A7 II/A7 III is now being sold off more than anything else, and even the A7R III.

Feb, same thing really top in sales and top in used market;

even after other cameras take over from top sales, the A7 III is still the top used.

Whether you are a sony fan or whatever, you have to admit that is curious data. Someone's putting up these A7 III's for sale, and they are doing so in numbers they haven't in the past.

Granted MAP Camera is one large camera store in Japan, it's not exactly a good indicator of a market, but it's showing something we've never really seen before.

Well, I can tell you that here in Canada, people were literally scalping the A7III for exorbitant prices due to the demand right up until October. This would be considered a used sale, as someone bought it new then sold it. That would be considered someone "dumping" the A7III, when in reality, it's scalping. We saw prices for A7III bodies in private sales hitting almost $1000 over retail.

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