C&C: Basque Country and Zaragoza (Spain)

Reilly Diefenbach said:

Nikon D500. Notice the size of the file, 9MB, just as shown in the full quality DPR sample gallery :

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No, that sample image in the gallery is 7.1 MB, which is a compressed jpg, roughly the same file size as the samples I linked to earlier.

In your screen shot above you are using a compressed jpg, not a raw file! So of course if you start with a 7 MB compressed jpg and crank the quality level up to 12, it will add a couple of megabytes. Start with a raw file and save it at level 12, and see what your file size becomes.

My point stands: The jpg samples on DPR that accompany camera reviews are not saved at the highest quality level as you claimed. They are saved at approximately the level I recommended: 8.

Reilly Diefenbach said:

sabrina81 said:

Reilly Diefenbach said:

You can scour the galleries to try and prove your point, but the good stuff all has raws that can be downloaded and exported.

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You keep moving the goalposts. We're not talking about raw files, because they aren't saved at any quality level. That's why they're called "raw." When you spoke of DPR sample images, you were talking about jpgs, not raw files.

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Why is this so difficult for you to understand? The raws are there to download and convert and save as full size jpgs. Sheesh!

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I understand that perfectly. But it is irrelevant to the question we disagree on. Again, here is what YOU said and what I was responding to:

Reilly Diefenbach said:

You will at some point have to come to grips with the fact that DPR sample jpgs are full quality as exported from Lightroom. Not 90%, certainly not 80%. Full quality.

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Of course the raws can be downloaded and save at any quality level you please. But you said the SAMPLE JPGs posted there are saved at the maximum quality level. So stop changing subject. We aren't talking about the raw files.

I'm not going to waste any more time trying to discuss this with you, because you just keep evading the questions. Post your last snarky retort, and we're done.

sabrina81 said:

Reilly Diefenbach said:

Nikon D500. Notice the size of the file, 9MB, just as shown in the full quality DPR sample gallery :

D500 Save As

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No, that sample image in the gallery is 7.1 MB, which is a compressed jpg, roughly the same file size as the samples I linked to earlier.

In your screen shot above you are using a compressed jpg, not a raw file! So of course if you start with a 7 MB compressed jpg and crank the quality level up to 12, it will add a couple of megabytes. Start with a raw file and save it at level 12, and see what your file size becomes.

My point stands: The jpg samples on DPR that accompany camera reviews are not saved at the highest quality level as you claimed. They are saved at approximately the level I recommended: 8.

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No way. If that were the case, the jpgs would be 1-3MB as shown. They are not, not even close. Answer that before you repost the same nonsense.

You are trying to get everyone to gut the quality of their images, wasting the quality for which they paid so much money just so that you, Sabrina, can download them faster. Pathetic. It won't fly.

sabrina81 said:

Reilly Diefenbach said:

sabrina81 said:

Reilly Diefenbach said:

You can scour the galleries to try and prove your point, but the good stuff all has raws that can be downloaded and exported.

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You keep moving the goalposts. We're not talking about raw files, because they aren't saved at any quality level. That's why they're called "raw." When you spoke of DPR sample images, you were talking about jpgs, not raw files.

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Why is this so difficult for you to understand? The raws are there to download and convert and save as full size jpgs. Sheesh!

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I understand that perfectly. But it is irrelevant to the question we disagree on. Again, here is what YOU said and what I was responding to:

Reilly Diefenbach said:

You will at some point have to come to grips with the fact that DPR sample jpgs are full quality as exported from Lightroom. Not 90%, certainly not 80%. Full quality.

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Of course the raws can be downloaded and save at any quality level you please.

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This is turning sisyphean.

Member said:

But you said the SAMPLE JPGs posted there are saved at the maximum quality level.

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They are. 9MP is not 2, which is what you get when you gut the quality down to 8, which is what you keep bleating for, for selfish reasons of your own.

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So stop changing subject. We aren't talking about the raw files.

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We are indeed talking about the DPR sample images which are shot in raw, then converted at full res, full quality to jpg, with file sizes somewhere in the 7-15 MB size, not 1-3 MB 80 percenters, a fact that keeps flying over your head like the MX missile.

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I'm not going to waste any more time trying to discuss this with you, because you just keep evading the questions. Post your last snarky retort, and we're done.

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You are simply should not tell posters here to reduce quality unless they want to for reasons of their own, not for the convenience of Queen Sabrina and her lousy internet connection.

franct said:

Hi all!

I would like to share some pictures of my trip to Basque Country and Zaragoza last January. On my website you can see many more pictures of the trip:

https://francescobonino.smugmug.com/Travels/Euskadi/

All the pictures have been taken with Sony A7 II, Sony-Zeiss 16-35 f/4 and Tamron 28-75 f/2.8

C&C are welcome!

Foggy night in Zaragoza

Rural landscape of Basque Country

Stairway to San Juan de Gaztelugatxe

Maman spider and Guggenheim Museum

Nervion River in Bilbao

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Beautiful photos on your website. I lived in Zaragoza with my family while we were stationed at the US Air Base there from 1960-63 and have long wanted to return. I am inspired again to make that journey.

--
Moretti
"Things are more like they are now than they've ever been before."

I'm getting all nostalgic looking at Francesco's beautifully processed pics of the Furkapass and the Hotel Belvedere. What a treat that was!




All I had was a point and shoot!

lilBuddha said:

poppyjk said:

I was only reacting in a pedantic way to Sabrina's pedantic post that instigated this tangent. I hope the OP does not take any offense, and I appreciate that he posted in uncompressed full resolution.

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I do not agree that is where the problem started, but this is my lost post on this tangent because we are distracting from the OP.

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I offer this for your consideration.

I respect the time you took to thoughtfully comment on the content of the OP's photos.

On the other hand, Sabrina's first post was only about file size, image quality and resolution and saying the thumbnails were 'pretty'. In her 10+ posts in the thread she never once referenced the content of the OP's photos instead dwelling on file size. Her whole interest was a tangent to what is normal C&C. She frequently makes very helpful C&C suggestions and observations, but not in this case.

"The thumbnails look pretty, but the files are so large, I gave up after viewing the first one at original size (48 seconds to load). You could make it easier on viewers by outputting at a lower quality level. Example: Your first image is 16.8 MB. That could be saved at 2.9 MB without sacrificing image quality or resolution.

What Quality You Should Export Your JPEGs in Lightroom and Photoshop"

Hilifer said:

I am inspired again to make that journey.

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Wonderful! One of main the reasons why I share my images is actually to inspire to travel. So I'm very happy to read it!

Reilly Diefenbach said:

I'm getting all nostalgic looking at Francesco's beautifully processed pics of the Furkapass and the Hotel Belvedere. What a treat that was!

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Yeah, it was a wonderful day last year! I had climbed Furkpass and Grimselpass with my road bike and I was very lucky to have a sunny day. I really recommend Swiss alpine pass: scenery is beautiful and there are also fascinating old vintage hotels like Hotel Belvedere. And I have also used a point and shot camera that day, although a quite good one (Sony RX 100 III)