I have large hands and like the size very much
I like my GX8 so much that for my uses there is no other m43 camera I would rather have . I was disappointed when the GX9 turned out to be very much not a GX8 update. I would like better IBIS for video and a pixel shift mode to play with in a future GX8 , however I doubt we will ever see one :-(
That thing was huge. Stopped me dead in my tracks from buying it. That and the swivel screen.
You and me both, and I have medium/small hands. Love the GX8! Just not holding my breath for a true GX8 MkII though.I have large hands and like the size very much
Sure, and that's why they came up with the E-M1.2, G9, GH5, E-M1X; all smallish cameras with tilt and swivel screens. Sheesh!
Amusing only because there is a bit of truth in what he is saying. The big difference in size is the additional grip and the EVF. The height difference is negligible.I do find that a bit amusing as I recall all the "it's huge " jibes about the GX8
All those cameras you mentioned are DSLR styled. The GX8 is Rangefinder styled.
Last I looked, the jury is still out about swivel vs tilt at about 50/50. I for one, wouldn't touch a tilt screen. I like the fact I can close and protect it and that It can face forward when we make family "selfies". You can keep that "Kiss of Death" for yourself as it is quite subjective. BTW, aren't all the high end µ4/3 cameras such as G9, GH5, E-M1.2, E-M1X equipped with the same "Kiss of Death" swivel screen? Strange, isn't it?
Olympus Pen-F. Not sure if there are others.
I would have preferred a tilt screen to an articulating screen, but it didn't keep me from buying a GX8, and it hasn't been a big deal to me in the years I've owned it. Sometimes articulating is better. Polls on this forum have shown a nearly 50/50 split in preference. For RF-style cameras, often prized for street shooting, the preference for tilt might be higher.
Agreed for the first part about a true GX8 successor (GX8 MkII?) but not about the articulated LCD that I love and the dedicated EV dial that I use all the time...
I am with you , both the articulated LCD and EV dial are amongst the reasons why the GX8 is my favourite m43 camera . I also use the tilting EVF quite a lot
Yeah, I use it all the time, too, because there's no other freakin' option!!! :-x :-D
See, I like the EV dial so much I hadn't even realized it was the only option...
Don't exactly follow the logic linking RF-styles bodies with tilt screen. Heck, you already have a tilt EVF, what more do you want? ;-)
These are not rangefinder cameras.If you like the GX8 you probably like a premium range finder. Is it possible that the Panasonic agreement with Leica precludes Panasonic from making a larger range finder style camera? Granted Leica is limited to the L mounts, vs the GX8 and the m43 mounts.
But if you want a small range finder Panasonic/Leica have plenty to choose from LX100ii/D-Lux 7, GX9, ZS100 and ZS95. If the Q2 is any indication, then you are going to have to go way upscale to get that larger rangefinder, or switch to Fuji...
While I don't like it, it does actually make sense.
Now if they come out with a GX10 that has the OLED view finder all bets are off...
Why do some people consider aesthetics inevitably divorced from function? Not easy to get it right, but it is the thing for many of us.
I guess you have a "selective reading" problem.
And those precious undersized cameras that need a grip for decent handling end up being bigger and heavier and than the GX8. The GX8 is close to perfect out of the box. It’s solid to work with, whether using small primes, manual or adapted lenses or the 100-400mm. Add the bigger eyecup, a hot shoe thumb grip and a rubber bumper of the front Fn7 button and it’s good to go.
The “failure” of the GX8 was the hysteria over shutter shock with one or two kit lenses (14-140mm II specifically) within a narrow range of shutter speeds. Easily alleviated with Silent Mode and it’s electronic shutter.
So of all the RF-Styled cameras, only 2 and they're both M43. And they both sold poorly. Price surely was a factor, maybe also the sensor size but swivel screens was a instant turn off to street photographers .
Polls on this forum don't matter. Its not like they polled actual street photographers and asked us, Especially the ones that shoot street.
You may be right, but I think you're not understanding how critical an error of a swivel screen is for one on the streets. And let me be clear, I'm simply saying for "Street Photography" a swivel screen is not preferred and avoided.
Yeah, thanks... I wasn't gonna touch that one. That's right up there with "Panasonic had a deal where olympus couldn't put 4K in their cameras..."
I wondered when the "rangefinder" police would show. I try to use "rangefinder style" to fend you guys off, but sometimes I forget to include "style". Besides, I think most people understood what I meant.These are not rangefinder cameras.If you like the GX8 you probably like a premium range finder. Is it possible that the Panasonic agreement with Leica precludes Panasonic from making a larger range finder style camera? Granted Leica is limited to the L mounts, vs the GX8 and the m43 mounts.
But if you want a small range finder Panasonic/Leica have plenty to choose from LX100ii/D-Lux 7, GX9, ZS100 and ZS95. If the Q2 is any indication, then you are going to have to go way upscale to get that larger rangefinder, or switch to Fuji...
While I don't like it, it does actually make sense.
Now if they come out with a GX10 that has the OLED view finder all bets are off...
There is only one brand of rangefinder camera available. The shape of the body does not by any stretch of the imagination make it a rangefinder camera.
If you all want a rangefinder camera so bad you can taste it just buy one.
