What impact does the Canon EOS R system have on your future M system purchases?

PaddyC wrote:

No impact for me.

I don't find the bodies compelling yet and there are a few issues (technical and crippling-wise) that would need to be addressed to make them more interesting to me.

But mostly it's the lenses. Thom Hogan had an interesting piece on what Canon was up to. I always find his writing balanced and insightful. He figured they are executing a particular strategy with he thigh-end lenses. And so-so bodies at the start.

I'm not buying any of these lenses so the only way the R becomes interesting is when and if Canon starts making more modest primes. Again, the Nikon Z is a much more compelling system to me right now.

While i do see Canon is behind with the bodies, especially in the AF department, and i agree both the R and even more the RP are non-L bodies, i don't see the the lack of modest primes would be a problem so much. Those who are on a budget will happily adapt EF primes like the EF 50mm f/1.8 stm or the EF 40mm f/2.8 stm. The EF 85mm f/1.8 isn't a great lens, but when you are on a budget it is a very good option to buy this second hand. It will be around 225 euro, which is only 100 euro more than the 50mm f/1.8 stm which also needs to be stopped down to f/2.8. The adapter costs 100 euro. But f/2.8 on full frame gives more background blur than f/2.8 on crop, and the 85mm on full frame will be sharper.

The 100mm f/2.8 IS USM macro lens isn't that expensive either second hand (500 euro) or even new with cash back. It is big, but not really heavy, it is not as bright as the 85mm f/1.8, but on full frame it is sharp wide open and it has IS.

EF 135mm f/2.0 is 600 euro second hand.....

So, the real competitor to RF modest primes will be second hand EF glass. Maybe that is the reason why Canon didn't bring out so much modest primes. Obviously there is no size advantage, but it isn't always about size when you're buying a full frame camera.