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Re: EF-M 32mm f/1.4 ... comparisons
Kharan wrote:
mpressed wrote:
I so wanted to stay out of this thread and let Marco speak fro me... The RP to me is such a freaking annoyance. It was easy to sit back and justify ..i moved from FF full size dslr kits to the M5 and M lenses for the sake of size and weight and while still needing and hoping for a few fast primes and a couple fast zooms i would be a happy camper. The IQ of the M5 and many of the M lenses is great enough for the tradeoff of weight and size for me. I never want to go back to carrying a giant bag again.. When the R came out it was easy for me to continue to justify avoiding the temptation to have FF MILC, because of the size and weight was heading back towards dslr specs... and if i were to go the R route id do so only because of the lens offerings particularly the L lenses. Any one shooting canon for a period of time lows while there are some impressive non L lenses when comping ef to efL lenses there really is no comparisons (no need to chime in with the few exceptions that are out threw know there are some great EF lenses too) so to me the R was being positioned to be canons enthusiast plus to pro MILC set up. They should have maintained a predominantly L lens plan for a few years while continuing to roll out the M line for those that didn't want to spend the money or deal with the size weight factor. Dropping the RP in so soon is just causing confusion and annoyance to so many...
It's a brilliant move, actually. The EOS R is another 6DII, I.e. underwhelming in every sense of the word. The RP promises to be everything that mirrorless and Canon are supposedly about: low cost, high production automation, compact cameras with great optics.
and compounding it with what are relatively good but not great lenses to try and attract the enthusiast to buy is simply a money hungry move on canons part which may end up biting them in the butt as some M users may now hold off building their kits and waiting to see where canon puts it r&d money will the M grow or wait to see the maturity of the RP and mid quality lens lineup to go with the RP and future bodies in the same vain. Id much sooner pay R pricing for M cameras and lenses if the development was there. Happy to pay more for something small and great then another line of larger gear that has already been covered in the market by other manufacturers. If canon were to continue to develop the M line with a few tweak to the M5/6 they would have a body that rivals any MILC or DSLR, and if they would just complete the trilogy of fast primes and fast zooms (knowing they would be bigger then current M lenses but still overall a much smaller kit then any R kit will be) they would have a heck of a lot of happy M owners. Give me fast M glass and ill forgo FF for convenience at this point.
Not gonna happen, unfortunately. But hey, the RP will always offer better IQ, anyway, so when you change systems there will be that upshot 😆
Not always... It depends what are you shooting and what are you doing with your pics...
Even more annoying is just as i start to think the canon will start stepping up with the M and give me the lenses and development i need to believe i can finally start trading in all my EFL lenses. I truly believed over the next two years as more M (preferably better faster) lenses were released i would finally start trading in EFL and DSLR gear to finance them rather then going out of pocket.. now if fear that i may need to keep EF lenses around to cover certain needs, i still wont trade them in...thanks canon.
mp
We have been telling this forum for months now: EF-M is a dead mount walking. It won't happen tomorrow, or next month, but its deprecation is coming, and if the RP is a huge success, it'll happen sooner than expected.
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Do you think those who are shooting now with Mxx + 11-22mm or xxxxD + 10-18mm, are happily going to RP + EF or RF 16-35mm?
I believe Dslrs + EF-s and EF-lenses will be discontinued in the future (I'm sure we won't see any new EF-s lens in the future). But M-cameras will stay as a small and affordable system for those, who don't want to buy bigger, heavier and more expensive FF/R-system.