Which Panasonic kit lens is this?

eilivk wrote:

Astrotripper wrote:

eilivk wrote:

Astrotripper wrote:

eilivk wrote:

Just found a cheap Panasonic GX7 with a silver kit lens that could be this: Panasonic Lumix G Vario 14-42mm F3.5-5.6 II ASPH Mega OIS

[...] It's also small. It is in fact the smallest of all the 14-4x kit zooms.

Interesting, but I have seen one 14-4x kit lens nearly as small as the 12-32? This was larger. Well anyway, the camera is cheap...

Ah, you're right of course. I forgot to mention I meant non-power zooms. Both Panasonic and Olympus make smaller pancake 14-42 power zooms (I bet that's what you saw). I actually have the Panasonic 14-42 PZ myself. Interestingly, in terms of image quality, it's pretty much the same as 14-42 II as far as I can tell. Maybe with a bit less purple fringing on the PZ one.

Don't think which lens is that important for buying. But IQ is, checked G3 and GX7, thought there would be more difference, but stabilization should mean a lot, for the 20 and 60mm. Could use lower ISO.

Had read your comment on stabilisation on G3 and GX7 a few times...

I suppose your should aware that GX7 was the first test bed of Penny on IBIS and according to my home testing, it is around 0.5~1 stop effective for non OIS lens only. For OIS lenses, GX7 is the same as G3 and any Panny cameras (IBIS or not), uses lens OIS only. The more effective DUAL IS is only available on GX85 and later models. Basically GX7 will have marginal advantage on stabilisation when shooting with non OIS lens. When an OIS lens be considered, they have the same stabilisation.

More obvious different would be happened on GX85 or later. IMHO, if slower shutter speed can be used, the 3~3.5 stops stabilisation of lens OIS of a f/3.5~XX lens, e.g. 14~45, could be far more usable than 14 f/2.5 or even a f/1.7 lens on GX7.