Considering Quattro H concerned about SA lenses

TN Args wrote:

nick webster wrote:

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nick webster wrote:

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nick webster wrote:

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Scottelly wrote:

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Scottelly wrote:

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xpatUSA wrote:

dazzleships wrote:

I owned at least one of every generation on DPX camera. My most sold landscape photo was taken on a DP1s. My Merrills are getting on and I am considering the Quattro H. I recently bought a Sony A7rii ($1600 new), Loxia 21mm, and Zeiss 55mm. However, I wasn't happy with the IQ compared to my Merrills and am considering returning it. My goal is to print A0 and even larger.

Now, the Quattro H is on my radar; but, I am concerned about the SA series lenses being discontinued. I don't want to invest in an already obsolete system. To those maybe more knowledgeable about this:

- Is SA dead?

From the horse's mouth:

As part of its move into L-mount cameras and lenses, Sigma will be turning its back on its own SA-mount cameras (though it will continue to produce SA-mount lenses).

“All future interchangeable-lens camera systems developed by SIGMA will feature the L-mount,” Sigma CEO Kazuto Yamaki says in a statement. “SIGMA does not plan to develop new cameras equipped with an SA-mount.”

Photographers who have already invested in SA-mount lenses will have the option of having them converted into the L mount. There will also be an SA-to-L adapter for non-converted lenses.

“SIGMA treats our continued support for SA-mount lenses as a top priority,” Yamaki states. “This commitment of ours will not be affected by our move to a new mount system, and SA-mount lenses will continue to be part of our production.

https://petapixel.com/2018/09/26/sigma-to-launch-full-frame-foveon-l-mount-mirrorless-camera/

Thanks Ted. Clearly he says, in the last paragraph, that SA mount lenses will continue.

To the OP: there is no indication that the SA mount is discontinued for Sigma lenses. Only for new bodies.

They won't continue making DSLR lenses once the big three are making mostly mirrorless cameras, and I think that is already happening.

Sigma will concentrate on making mirrorless lenses after their current roll-out. That's not to say that the current excellent crop of SA-mount lenses will not be available to buy new for a few years. I'm sure those will continue to be available for at least five years, but almost all new designs will be exclusive to mirrorless cameras.

That's a prediction - not some insider knowledge. In two or three years the current crop of lenses are going to start looking really old, compared to the new lenses that will be introduced in 2020 and 2021.

If Sigma makes more than five new SA-mount lenses in the next five years, I'll be really surprised. In the same period of time they will make more than a dozen new mirrorless-only lenses. (Another prediction)

Since you are predicting, I will predict at least 10 years.

Just look at the Nikon 1 system.

Four Thirds

How many years did they make 4/3s lenses after moving to m4/3s ? It wasn't long as I remember, but I could be wrong.

Nick

9 years - my point.

9 years ? The article says "It's been six and a half years since the launch of the last Four Thirds mount camera,"

What am I missing ?

Nick

They announced m43 in 2008 and discontinued Four Thirds lenses in 2017.

Yes but they stopped making 4/3s lenses only about 5 years after finishing the 4/3s cameras. By that reckoning Sigma will be due to stop in about 5 years time ( unless they announce another SA mount camera ) - which ties in more closely with Scott's prediction than yours Not sure that was your point in making the comparison

Doesn't matter -- Scott's ears are a bit more open than yours.

As I have stated numerous times and places, I am not a big fan of wild-assed predictions stated as facts. I usually only enter a predictions thread to show how things might not work out as predicted. And so I have done here.

But the example you gave didn't show what you claimed it showed - Oly stopped making 4/3s lenses only about 5 years after it had stopped making 4/3s bodies, not the 9 you said. That was my only point - not that Sigma would do the same.

Nobody has any idea how long Sigma will carry on making SA mount lenses. I suspect even Sigma don't have an exact timeline.

Job done. Except regarding you, and that's fine.

My message to the OP is consistent. Not "it will be 10 years" -- only someone who is trying to buy an argument would read me that way.

I wasn't trying to start an argument, apologies if my post came across like that.

My message is to buy the cameras and lenses that suit his needs and are on the market today, without trying to guess the future in order to 'minimise investment losses' -- a game that usually causes unnecessary angst and stops people buying what best suits their needs now, only to later discover that guessing isn't reality. Anyway, digital camera gear depreciates a lot over 5-10 years no matter the brand or market context.

I don't disagree at all.

cheers

Nick