Considering Quattro H concerned about SA lenses

TN Args wrote:

Scottelly wrote:

TN Args wrote:

Scottelly wrote:

TN Args wrote:

xpatUSA wrote:

dazzleships wrote:

I owned at least one of every generation on DPX camera. My most sold landscape photo was taken on a DP1s. My Merrills are getting on and I am considering the Quattro H. I recently bought a Sony A7rii ($1600 new), Loxia 21mm, and Zeiss 55mm. However, I wasn't happy with the IQ compared to my Merrills and am considering returning it. My goal is to print A0 and even larger.

Now, the Quattro H is on my radar; but, I am concerned about the SA series lenses being discontinued. I don't want to invest in an already obsolete system. To those maybe more knowledgeable about this:

- Is SA dead?

From the horse's mouth:

As part of its move into L-mount cameras and lenses, Sigma will be turning its back on its own SA-mount cameras (though it will continue to produce SA-mount lenses).

“All future interchangeable-lens camera systems developed by SIGMA will feature the L-mount,” Sigma CEO Kazuto Yamaki says in a statement. “SIGMA does not plan to develop new cameras equipped with an SA-mount.”

Photographers who have already invested in SA-mount lenses will have the option of having them converted into the L mount. There will also be an SA-to-L adapter for non-converted lenses.

“SIGMA treats our continued support for SA-mount lenses as a top priority,” Yamaki states. “This commitment of ours will not be affected by our move to a new mount system, and SA-mount lenses will continue to be part of our production.

https://petapixel.com/2018/09/26/sigma-to-launch-full-frame-foveon-l-mount-mirrorless-camera/

Thanks Ted. Clearly he says, in the last paragraph, that SA mount lenses will continue.

To the OP: there is no indication that the SA mount is discontinued for Sigma lenses. Only for new bodies.

They won't continue making DSLR lenses once the big three are making mostly mirrorless cameras, and I think that is already happening.

Sigma will concentrate on making mirrorless lenses after their current roll-out. That's not to say that the current excellent crop of SA-mount lenses will not be available to buy new for a few years. I'm sure those will continue to be available for at least five years, but almost all new designs will be exclusive to mirrorless cameras.

That's a prediction - not some insider knowledge. In two or three years the current crop of lenses are going to start looking really old, compared to the new lenses that will be introduced in 2020 and 2021.

If Sigma makes more than five new SA-mount lenses in the next five years, I'll be really surprised. In the same period of time they will make more than a dozen new mirrorless-only lenses. (Another prediction)

Since you are predicting, I will predict at least 10 years.

Just look at the Nikon 1 system.

Four Thirds

I see. m4/3 was introduced in 2008, but there are still new Sigma 4/3-mount lenses available in 2018.

https://www.amazon.com/Sigma-50-500mm-Telephoto-Olympus-Panasonic/dp/B000FBFXYM

But how many new Sigma 4/3-mount lenses were introduced after 2008? I don't think there were ANY. I think they just kept making the five lenses they introduced in 2006, and then they started introducing m4/3 lenses, beginning with the 19mm and 30mm f2.8 EX DN lenses in early 2012, right?

https://www.dpreview.com/products/sigma/lenses/sigma_m_30_2p8

Being a low-noise lover, I'm not a big proponent of the 4/3 or m4/3 cameras. I was a full-frame guy for years . . . until a friend with a Canon 7 D proved to me that his camera, with its 1.6x crop factor sensor, could produce better photos at ISO 3200 (the highest ISO my full-frame camera could achieve) than my full-frame camera. That's when I realized that high-resolution, small sensors could do what even full-frame sensors could not, if they had the right, new technology. I didn't jump on any 4/3 or m43 bandwagon though. Maybe there never really was a bandwagon for 4/3 or m4/3. I did realize that smaller sensors do have some worthwhile advantages though. I also bought a Sigma SD 14 with its 1.7x crop factor sensor (which matched the 1.7x crop factor sensor in my Sony R1).

So why am I telling you all that? Because I want you to know that I'm no expert on 4/3 or m4/3, so I don't know exactly what happened in the transition. I also don't know if Sigma will transition from DSLR lenses to mirrorless the same way they did with their 4/3 to m4/3 transition. I'd guess probably not. I'm thinking they'll probably transition faster, considering the fact that their new camera is going to be a short-flange mirrorless camera, and also considering the fact that there are already a lot of Sony full-frame mirrorless users out there . . . and considering that it's pretty obvious that the near future is mirrorless. How many new full-frame DSLR bodies were introduced by Nikon and Canon this year? (2018) The D850 was introduced last year, right? None, according to DPreview here:

https://www.dpreview.com/reviews?category=cameras

If neither Canon or Nikon introduces a new full-frame DSLR body in 2019, then who's going to want to build a system of new full-frame lenses in 2020? Photographers will avoid doing that until they know for sure what's going on. Many will just buy a mirrorless camera and start building a system of mirrorless lenses, taking advantage of the good buys they can get on used lenses from time to time . . . if they're the type to buy used lenses.