Jonathan Brady wrote:
Thoughts R Us wrote:
They have torn down the EOS R, along with the Nikon Z's and the Sony's...and their verdict is this:
"However, as we previously discussed, neither the Sony or Nikon cameras come close to the Canon EOS R in terms of beautiful design, and that’s a fact."
You may have overlooked this...
Each full frame mirrorless camera so far has had its relative strengths and weaknesses. 2018 is leaving us in a stalemate. Perhaps, with the big three major brands no longer playing catch-up, 2019 will bring more decisive developments to this conflict.
It sounds like, other than the internal design, it appears they're saying all of these cameras essentially play tit for tat. Or, in their words: "a stalemate". Perhaps a "tat" against Canon was the rattling, despite not having IBIS? They seemed to imply it without explicitly stating it.
From there you can find article for the teardown of the EOS R, along with other cameras.
One other thing if you read some of their teardown: they seem to find the most fault with Sony cameras with regards to internal construction quality. No surprise there.
The way I read it, they found the most fault with older generation Sony cameras, not with the 3rd generation cameras. Specifically, in the Z6 teardown, they stated...
and good temperature control, something that has been an issue for Sony cameras
Use of the word "has" as opposed to "is" suggests it's no longer a real-world problem in the 3rd generation bodies. User experience supports this as well. Because you frequently insist that user experience is infinitely more important than reviews and tests, I have to assume that you'll apply that same standard to the 3rd generation Sony bodies with updated FW when it comes to passing judgment regarding internal construction.
If that quote, along with exponentially more real-world user experience existing with the 3rd generation Sony bodies vs the R, is not sufficient, here's another quote from the same page...
another feature shared by Sony. This design makes it far more acceptable for them to get wet or damaged. If they do, they probably won’t short out the entire motherboard like they might if they were integrated onto that crucial part.
In essence, a great design choice for Sony and Nikon. More on weather sealing, this time from the R teardown page...
The body and all of its ports and slots seem decently weather sealed, no more or less than the Z7 or A7R III. All of the full-frame mirrorless cameras appear to take to the same approach to keeping the elements at bay: tight tolerances, lots of overlap, and rubber sealing on the openings.
Sounds like they're all basically equal in the real-world when considering the latest offerings, no? I'll close this part of my post with this quote as support for my assertion...
2018 is leaving us in a stalemate.
This forum has been relatively free from mention of anything "Sony" lately. I'm surprised you opted to bring it up. It's unfortunate that your criticism is actually unsupported when it comes to comparing the R to the A7III.
I have noticed that he bashes the Sony brand any chance he gets. As far as I know, there are forum rules against this...