Splash / Dustproof - Panasonic and Olympus - value?

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Splash / Dustproof - Panasonic and Olympus - value?
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Hi,

My Brother was on an Island trip with his new Panasonic G81. During a hike it started to rain and the camera was also exposed to it (with 12-60mm attached). As result the camera did not start up anymore (obviously some water got inside). When back in Germany he sent the camera to Panasonic. Result: this is not covered by warranty because of external influence / improper use and repair costs would be 489€ (Mainboard / Shutter and Display replacement).

So I started to have a look on “Splash / Dustproof” definitions by Panasonic and Olympus:

Panasonic
When checking the Panasonic Website and how it is promoted:
https://www.panasonic.com/uk/consumer/cameras-camcorders/lumix-g-compact-system-cameras/dmc-g80eb.html

Splash / Dustproof

Overview - Last page:

Explore in any Weather
The Lumix G80 is rugged enough to withstand the most challenging environments with a splash/dustproof body and kitlens. The latest features is condensed into a compact and mobile design giving you the flexibility and freedom to explore your adventures

What Panasonic understanding of splash/dustproof is: From G81 Manual (Page 7):
https://tda.panasonic-europe-service.com/docs/2z5c07bfbez3z3dca7z656ez706466z22za894c47d1c11a5dcfa68a1abbceb6facf5ddfdb7/tsn3/data/ALL/DMCG80EB/OI/959403/dvqx1015za.pdf

Splash Proof
Splash Proof is a term used to describe an extra level of protection this camera offers against exposure to a minimal amount of moisture, water or dust. Splash Proof does not guarantee that damage will not occur if this camera is subjected to direct contact with water.

Same for the G9 by the way (Page 13):
https://tda.panasonic-europe-service.com/docs/2z5c07c7f9z3z3efe1z656ez706466z20za92131e9907e87cf83914dc5e6aca57fd4d77d65/tsn3/data/ALL/DCG9EB/OI/961438/dvqp1406za.pdf

So as long as the camera is not touched by any water (-drops) it is splash proof

Olympus
Now when checking for my Olympus EM1.2 (also applies for EM5.2):

https://cs.olympus-imaging.jp/en/support/imsg/digicamera/download/manual/omd/man_em1m2_ver2_e.pdf

Splash resistance: Equivalent to IEC Standard publication 60529 IPX1 (under OLYMPUS test conditions)

When checking on IPX1:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IP_Code

Dripping water (vertically falling drops) shall have no harmful effect on the specimen when mounted in an upright position onto a turntable and rotated at 1 RPM.
Test duration: 10 minutes
Water equivalent to 1 mm rainfall per minute

So this sounds better, but still some room to argue in case of a water damage caused by rain

My summary for now:
1. Panasonics Dust / Splash proof is completely useless (ok the G81 has some kind of sealing, but e.g. no sealing at all on the card door)
2. Olympus is better (they at least guaranty something with IPX1), but I’m not sure about the real world usage of this  (at least I used my EM1.2 several times in rain without any issues)

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