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EOS-M is dead. I'm moving to Sony...

Started Sep 7, 2018 | Discussions thread
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Re: EOS-M is dead. I'm moving to Sony...
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crashpc wrote:

Marco, I think You missed the point.

And while there is good chunk of the truth in your stories, there is more to it.

Nature of the people is to evolve, to strive for better if possible. If things were different in some sense, I wouldn´t even NEED a camera at all. But here we are, in the market full of choices. The "leader manufacturer" of the photo gear asks very high price and lets down quite a lot of people. Yes, they cannot do camera for everybody, but that´s not the problem that´s happening.

I mosly appreciate your opinions, but this truly reminds me of the piano player playing on the Titanic. All is good, no panic!

Look: This one of my needs is really not THAT niche:

I want a black box. Ideally small black box, with a shutter button and hardware so I can get digital picture out of it. It should be best box available, and I don´t really care about any other feautre.

Well, to make best image, it takes good sensor, and good choice of good lens.

Does EOS M or EOS R (choices) deliver any of that? I mean in competition?

No, it notoriously lags behind.

If you took some strenghts of Canon and showed us WHY and WHERE it is better, that would be fair. But this remorse, I had quite enough (of Canon). I only pitty myself for not seeing it enough so I got back from Nikon.

I hope you continue with making awesome images with your EOS system. It´s not all that bad after all...

Interesting point. As you are stating yourself, your are clearly a technician with a passion for absolut perfection.
Don't think though you can get this with a camera. It's a creative tool, and the definition of "best" will be very different for different purposes and people. Never 100% objective.

Also, I don't think anyone was tricked into the M system claiming that it will become the new FF ML from Canon. I still believe it has the best IQ per Size ratio of all comparable systems. That's at least true for me for the smaller M bodies. (M2, M100...). Did the M move into my direction? Guess no, otherwise I would not have invested into the Fuji system...

On the R I do understand that the initial launch is not to the satisfaction of everyone. I would have loved the smallest possible package with superb AF, and compact primes. Pretty much what Fuji does on APS-C and the X-E3. But I see how Canon is building out a new system, and started with a compromise to test the market. Looking at the released lenses and the latest samples converted from RAW, I don't understand how this release can be so disappointing. I know I can get the same from my 5dmk IV in a similar sized package, but that's a different discussion. Let's see how quickly Canon is expanding the R system with more sophisticated pro bodies, or smaller ones...

btw.: I know the OP will disagree, but Fuji really delivers on the feature+compact+lenses side. But then, they are looking at a different niche again. The thing that differentiates Fuji from most others (Canon/Nikon): They deliver everything they can, without crippling or holding back for strategic reasons. This then again leads to people whining why they bought the expensive XH1, when the quickly after released X-T3 seems to best it in so many ways... Hard to make everyone happy while gaining market share!

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