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What types of FF bodies you'd like to see in ML format

What types of FF bodies you'd like to see in ML format

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GodSpeaks said:
Personally, I have zero interest in a FF mirrorless camera. I made my mirrorless choice almost 10 years ago. I choose MFT. It offers all I need, and then some. YMMV.

Since the Nikon announcement, it seems the floodgates of insecurity have opened. They are just cameras, after all.
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rhlpetrus said:
I see four possibilities, let's call it Zn for reference.

a) Z1: Full grip, pro-level specs, similar to D5

b) Z800: Pro-level specs, more compact, similar do D850 (likely smaller)

c) Z600: Entry model, enthusiast-level specs, smaller than b), somewhere in between D610 and D750, including extremes.

d) Zs: rangefinder style, very small grip, the digital S, lots of manual controls.
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1. A combination of Z1 and Z800 but not fully Pro model. I think this will come later. Integral grip with an EL-EN18 type battery will be a +ve. 45 mp. So long as they mirror controls for portrait (big gap in the overpriced battery holders currently sold as grips). This camera will appeal to sports and wildlife shooters. Not least the silent shutter in tennis & golf etc, which will be fantastic for wildlife.

2. c - Z600 likely 24 mp. Lighter and more compact. Ideal for travel

It goes without saying the AF system on all ML Nikons will be a game changer in the spirit of that in the D5 and at core of not only the D850 but D500 and D7500
 
I have little to no interest in either a FF DSLR or mirrorless DSLR replacement. (Large camera, deep grip, large lenses) But I would very much like a compact, fun to shoot FF camera for street and walkaround. The Zs as described, along with one or two compact primes, would be just the ticket.

The first manufacturer to make a camera like this, with the right lenses and a great analog style shooting experience, is going to get several years of my photography budget all in a lump.
 
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chambeshi said:
rhlpetrus said:
I see four possibilities, let's call it Zn for reference.

a) Z1: Full grip, pro-level specs, similar to D5

b) Z800: Pro-level specs, more compact, similar do D850 (likely smaller)

c) Z600: Entry model, enthusiast-level specs, smaller than b), somewhere in between D610 and D750, including extremes.

d) Zs: rangefinder style, very small grip, the digital S, lots of manual controls.
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1. A combination of Z1 and Z800 but not fully Pro model. I think this will come later. Integral grip with an EL-EN18 type battery will be a +ve. 45 mp. So long as they mirror controls for portrait (big gap in the overpriced battery holders currently sold as grips). This camera will appeal to sports and wildlife shooters. Not least the silent shutter in tennis & golf etc, which will be fantastic for wildlife.
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That’s an interesting observation. Given that a large battery with lots of power is not needed for fast fps, since no mechanical parts are at work, one can have a slightly smaller body compared to D5 with similar or even higher level capabilities for action shooting. Point made, thanks.
chambeshi said:
2. c - Z600 likely 24 mp. Lighter and more compact. Ideal for travel

It goes without saying the AF system on all ML Nikons will be a game changer in the spirit of that in the D5 and at core of not only the D850 but D500 and D7500
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I think that’s what has hold them and Canon, to develop an AF system at about same level as D850/D500 re tracking but, covering whole frame. If they did that, markets will respond quickly I think.
chambeshi said:
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yardcoyote said:
I have little to no interest in either a FF DSLR or mirrorless DSLR replacement. (Large camera, deep grip, large lenses) But I would very much like a compact, fun to shoot FF camera for street and walkaround. The Zs as described, along with one or two compact primes, would be just the ticket.

The first manufacturer to make a camera like this, with the right lenses and a great analog style shooting experience, is going to get several years of my photography budget all in a lump.
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Mine as well, hoping Nikon listen to those like us, and it seems, from this poll, that such a camera would sell well.
 
historianx said:
I voted "none" because this does not interest me in the least. Been there, done that with mirrorless. No mas, por favor :(

17.1% seem to agree.
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rhlpetrus said:
yardcoyote said:
I have little to no interest in either a FF DSLR or mirrorless DSLR replacement. (Large camera, deep grip, large lenses) But I would very much like a compact, fun to shoot FF camera for street and walkaround. The Zs as described, along with one or two compact primes, would be just the ticket.

The first manufacturer to make a camera like this, with the right lenses and a great analog style shooting experience, is going to get several years of my photography budget all in a lump.
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Mine as well, hoping Nikon listen to those like us, and it seems, from this poll, that such a camera would sell well.
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Me to. Somethig in style:

Bessa R4m
Contax G2
Zeiss Ikon
Rollei 35RF
Nikon SP
Epson RD1s

With 24/2, 35/2 and 85/2.
 
Mateus1 said:
rhlpetrus said:
yardcoyote said:
I have little to no interest in either a FF DSLR or mirrorless DSLR replacement. (Large camera, deep grip, large lenses) But I would very much like a compact, fun to shoot FF camera for street and walkaround. The Zs as described, along with one or two compact primes, would be just the ticket.

The first manufacturer to make a camera like this, with the right lenses and a great analog style shooting experience, is going to get several years of my photography budget all in a lump.
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Mine as well, hoping Nikon listen to those like us, and it seems, from this poll, that such a camera would sell well.
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Me to. Somethig in style:

Bessa R4m
Contax G2
Zeiss Ikon
Rollei 35RF
Nikon SP
Epson RD1s

With 24/2, 35/2 and 85/2.
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And, of course, a nice very compact hq 50mm. Some people decry the 50, not me, some of my best images were shot with 35 f/2 D on the D80, 52mm equiv. It gives a very natural warm touch and a sense of immediacy to people’s candids, like this one:



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Good shooting and good luck
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Yes to all, but add a lens in the 40-55 range for those who find 35mm a bit too wide. A 50mm as suggested above would be excellent, as would one of the 42, 43, or 45mms you used to find on film cameras of this type.

One of these and a compact 85mm would be the lenses I would want for this camera.
 
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rhlpetrus said:
I see four possibilities, let's call it Zn for reference.

a) Z1: Full grip, pro-level specs, similar to D5

b) Z800: Pro-level specs, more compact, similar do D850 (likely smaller)

c) Z600: Entry model, enthusiast-level specs, smaller than b), somewhere in between D610 and D750, including extremes.

d) Zs: rangefinder style, very small grip, the digital S, lots of manual controls.

Which would interest you?
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None of the above, I would love to buy that if that's a D5 or at least D850 style body Mirrorless, if that's A7R II type of body I will past, because I have one already and never a big fan of it after two years. so i will most likely pass if it's that small.
 
I voted Z800 only, but would also be interested in an APS-C version for personal use if that will ever get developed. At the moment I use a X-T1 and am not satisfied with DR and AF-C, so I'll either upgrade within this system (X-T2 when X-T3 comes out) or switch to some other APS-C system.
 
I waited for a long time to see what Nikon would do with mirrorless (post Nikon 1 and aborted DL), I was hoping for a small, rangefinder style body with a DX sensor and some small, quality primes to go with it (16/2.8, 23/2, etc). But then came the rumours and eventual announcement, and it seemed like only FX mirrorless was likely at the outset. So my answer from your poll choices is Zs, but I'd prefer it in DX instead of FX.

For my more serious work I still think the FX dslr and my set of lenses is more suitable.
I'd love to upgrade my D800E to a D850, but oh, the price.
 
pw-pix2 said:
I waited for a long time to see what Nikon would do with mirrorless (post Nikon 1 and aborted DL), I was hoping for a small, rangefinder style body with a DX sensor and some small, quality primes to go with it (16/2.8, 23/2, etc). But then came the rumours and eventual announcement, and it seemed like only FX mirrorless was likely at the outset. So my answer from your poll choices is Zs, but I'd prefer it in DX instead of FX.

For my more serious work I still think the FX dslr and my set of lenses is more suitable.
I'd love to upgrade my D800E to a D850, but oh, the price.
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Dan_168 said:
rhlpetrus said:
I see four possibilities, let's call it Zn for reference.

a) Z1: Full grip, pro-level specs, similar to D5

b) Z800: Pro-level specs, more compact, similar do D850 (likely smaller)

c) Z600: Entry model, enthusiast-level specs, smaller than b), somewhere in between D610 and D750, including extremes.

d) Zs: rangefinder style, very small grip, the digital S, lots of manual controls.

Which would interest you?
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None of the above, I would love to buy that if that's a D5 or at least D850 style body Mirrorless, if that's A7R II type of body I will past, because I have one already and never a big fan of it after two years. so i will most likely pass if it's that small.
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Why doesn’t a) fit the bill, like a D5?
 
stratman1976 said:
I voted Z800 only, but would also be interested in an APS-C version for personal use if that will ever get developed. At the moment I use a X-T1 and am not satisfied with DR and AF-C, so I'll either upgrade within this system (X-T2 when X-T3 comes out) or switch to some other APS-C system.
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If they never bring something like the Zs I proposed, a compact APC-C would also work. I think APS-C will come soon, Thom says in his post within 8 months. That’s were large volumes live.
 
mais51 said:
pw-pix2 said:
I waited for a long time to see what Nikon would do with mirrorless (post Nikon 1 and aborted DL), I was hoping for a small, rangefinder style body with a DX sensor and some small, quality primes to go with it (16/2.8, 23/2, etc). But then came the rumours and eventual announcement, and it seemed like only FX mirrorless was likely at the outset. So my answer from your poll choices is Zs, but I'd prefer it in DX instead of FX.

For my more serious work I still think the FX dslr and my set of lenses is more suitable.
I'd love to upgrade my D800E to a D850, but oh, the price.

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I know, I know but bit the bullet and get myself one a few months ago - one thing disappoints me is the noise - not much quieter than my D800 - but 7 fps is great - similar to my D300s.
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The camera coming next month is likely the high MP model, body quality of D850, seems to be about size of D750, rumored 9fps, and zero noise. If adapter works well for tracking AF, would that work for you? or is D750 size too small? For me it ‘d be fine, but I don’t use large teles.

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Good shooting and good luck
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rhlpetrus said:
mais51 said:
pw-pix2 said:
I waited for a long time to see what Nikon would do with mirrorless (post Nikon 1 and aborted DL), I was hoping for a small, rangefinder style body with a DX sensor and some small, quality primes to go with it (16/2.8, 23/2, etc). But then came the rumours and eventual announcement, and it seemed like only FX mirrorless was likely at the outset. So my answer from your poll choices is Zs, but I'd prefer it in DX instead of FX.

For my more serious work I still think the FX dslr and my set of lenses is more suitable.
I'd love to upgrade my D800E to a D850, but oh, the price.
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yardcoyote said:
Yes to all, but add a lens in the 40-55 range for those who find 35mm a bit too wide. A 50mm as suggested above would be excellent, as would one of the 42, 43, or 45mms you used to find on film cameras of this type.

One of these and a compact 85mm would be the lenses I would want for this camera.
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Contax offered for G camera 35/2 and 45/2 which should satisfy all :)

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