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Name a camera you would've bought if it had dual card slots

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Mike CH said:
NottsPhoto said:
Mike CH said:
IR1234 said:
lumigraphics said:
IR1234 said:
lumigraphics said:
Mike CH said:
I don't typically shoot events where its a big deal anyway. I KNOW what I need and don't.
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It's a big deal for any photography professional. If the data cannot be stored immediately, eg tethered, then a single card will always present a single point of failure.

The whole reason camera manufacturers make dual cards is to give the option of recovering from a failed card.
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NO, it’s not. Apparently you aren’t around professionals at all. 🙄
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I am a professional photographer, and I even employ other professional photographers.
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It appears from this thread that being a professional photographer is not sufficient to reach agreement on whether card failures and consequently dual card slots are necessary or not.

Even professional photographers seem to fall prey to arguing from the specific to the general.

I think it’s a safe bet to say that the necessity for dual card slots is a question of circumstances and personal temperament and not an absolute imperative.
Mike CH said:
Why are dual cards and backup so difficult to understand?
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They are easy to understand. The problem seems to be that even professional photographers cannot agree on how exactly and to which degree to do it.

Regards, Mike
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GodSpeaks said:
Piece of mind comes from having a proper workflow and following it EVERY time.
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First of all, it's "peace".

Second, no workflow can overcome a hardware failure.

Not taking a side in this debate, just correcting you.

I don't need dual cards but I use them...

1 for RAW, 1 for JPG
 
NottsPhoto said:
IR1234 said:
NottsPhoto said:
Mike CH said:
IR1234 said:
lumigraphics said:
IR1234 said:
lumigraphics said:
NottsPhoto said:
I don't typically shoot events where its a big deal anyway. I KNOW what I need and don't.
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It's a big deal for any photography professional. If the data cannot be stored immediately, eg tethered, then a single card will always present a single point of failure.

The whole reason camera manufacturers make dual cards is to give the option of recovering from a failed card.
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NO, it’s not. Apparently you aren’t around professionals at all. 🙄
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I am a professional photographer, and I even employ other professional photographers.
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It appears from this thread that being a professional photographer is not sufficient to reach agreement on whether card failures and consequently dual card slots are necessary or not.

Even professional photographers seem to fall prey to arguing from the specific to the general.

I think it’s a safe bet to say that the necessity for dual card slots is a question of circumstances and personal temperament and not an absolute imperative.
NottsPhoto said:
Why are dual cards and backup so difficult to understand?
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They are easy to understand. The problem seems to be that even professional photographers cannot agree on how exactly and to which degree to do it.

Regards, Mike
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NottsPhoto said:
Mike CH said:
IR1234 said:
lumigraphics said:
IR1234 said:
lumigraphics said:
NottsPhoto said:
I don't typically shoot events where its a big deal anyway. I KNOW what I need and don't.
Click to expand...
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It's a big deal for any photography professional. If the data cannot be stored immediately, eg tethered, then a single card will always present a single point of failure.

The whole reason camera manufacturers make dual cards is to give the option of recovering from a failed card.
Click to expand...
NO, it’s not. Apparently you aren’t around professionals at all. 🙄
Click to expand...
I am a professional photographer, and I even employ other professional photographers.
Click to expand...
It appears from this thread that being a professional photographer is not sufficient to reach agreement on whether card failures and consequently dual card slots are necessary or not.

Even professional photographers seem to fall prey to arguing from the specific to the general.

I think it’s a safe bet to say that the necessity for dual card slots is a question of circumstances and personal temperament and not an absolute imperative.
NottsPhoto said:
Why are dual cards and backup so difficult to understand?
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They are easy to understand. The problem seems to be that even professional photographers cannot agree on how exactly and to which degree to do it.

Regards, Mike
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Ironically, it looks like I have a card that is showing signs of failing over my last three shoots. What is leading me to think this is that I shoot dual card. My primary card has one or two images that are corrupted, however my slot two card does not have the corrupted images.

That being said, I've never had a card failure until apparently now.

However, my second slot card has saved me from mistakes that I've made. Since we're all human, we are prone to making mistakes. I think that's the biggest advantage to having a second card.

Also, I've never been in a car accident, yet I always wear my seat belt. I've never had my house catch fire, yet I carry fire insurance and have a couple fire extinguisher handy. I haven't had an unexpected flat tire on my car in a couple decades, yet I always have a spare tire. Etc.

Their are a couple of non debatable realities here. 1. The likelihood of a card failure is very minimal. 2. Having a secondary card slot adds a layer of protection/security that is not available with one slot.

When it comes to mechanical/electronic processes, redundancy is almost always better. Whether it's worth it or not depends on how averse one is to risk.
 
Krav Maga said:
Ironically, it looks like I have a card that is showing signs of failing over my last three shoots. What is leading me to think this is that I shoot dual card. My primary card has one or two images that are corrupted, however my slot two card does not have the corrupted images.

That being said, I've never had a card failure until apparently now.

However, my second slot card has saved me from mistakes that I've made. Since we're all human, we are prone to making mistakes. I think that's the biggest advantage to having a second card.

Also, I've never been in a car accident, yet I always wear my seat belt. I've never had my house catch fire, yet I carry fire insurance and have a couple fire extinguisher handy. I haven't had an unexpected flat tire on my car in a couple decades, yet I always have a spare tire. Etc.
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+1

I agree with everything you are saying. :)

Just a side note that some cars are apparently being sold without a spare tire now-a-days.

That's my PSA for the day. LOL.

I read that my Dodge Grand Caravan is one of them.

We happened to get it used, and it happened to have a spare tire.

If it didn't, I think I might help dropped the cash to get the spare tire for the times we have to drive long distances while driving our daughters to cheer competitions in the U.S.

EDIT:

"

I would hate to all of a sudden need that tire and be in the middle of nowhere while trying to get to the hotel.

But then . . . if just driving around town or to and back from work, I might be ok without a spare.

But then . . . that's just the same as deciding whether you want / need dual card slots. Some people can use it or want it. Some don't.

"

I also keep a foot pump in our van so that if the tires are just a bit low, I can top them up without having to find a gas station.

Take care & Happy Shooting!
:)
Krav Maga said:
Their are a couple of non debatable realities here. 1. The likelihood of a card failure is very minimal. 2. Having a secondary card slot adds a layer of protection/security that is not available with one slot.

When it comes to mechanical/electronic processes, redundancy is almost always better. Whether it's worth it or not depends on how averse one is to risk.

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IR1234 said:
lumigraphics said:
IR1234 said:
lumigraphics said:
IR1234 said:
I don't typically shoot events where its a big deal anyway. I KNOW what I need and don't.
Click to expand...
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It's a big deal for any photography professional. If the data cannot be stored immediately, eg tethered, then a single card will always present a single point of failure.

The whole reason camera manufacturers make dual cards is to give the option of recovering from a failed card.
Click to expand...
NO, it’s not. Apparently you aren’t around professionals at all. 🙄
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I am a professional photographer, and I even employ other professional photographers.

Why are dual cards and backup so difficult to understand?
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Why do you think you speak for everyone? You don’t.
 
lumigraphics said:
IR1234 said:
lumigraphics said:
IR1234 said:
lumigraphics said:
lumigraphics said:
I don't typically shoot events where its a big deal anyway. I KNOW what I need and don't.
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
It's a big deal for any photography professional. If the data cannot be stored immediately, eg tethered, then a single card will always present a single point of failure.

The whole reason camera manufacturers make dual cards is to give the option of recovering from a failed card.
Click to expand...
NO, it’s not. Apparently you aren’t around professionals at all. 🙄
Click to expand...
I am a professional photographer, and I even employ other professional photographers.

Why are dual cards and backup so difficult to understand?
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Why do you think you speak for everyone? You don’t.
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Nor do you.
 
Mike CH said:
NottsPhoto said:
Mike CH said:
IR1234 said:
lumigraphics said:
IR1234 said:
lumigraphics said:
Mike CH said:
I don't typically shoot events where its a big deal anyway. I KNOW what I need and don't.
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
It's a big deal for any photography professional. If the data cannot be stored immediately, eg tethered, then a single card will always present a single point of failure.

The whole reason camera manufacturers make dual cards is to give the option of recovering from a failed card.
Click to expand...
NO, it’s not. Apparently you aren’t around professionals at all. 🙄
Click to expand...
I am a professional photographer, and I even employ other professional photographers.
Click to expand...
It appears from this thread that being a professional photographer is not sufficient to reach agreement on whether card failures and consequently dual card slots are necessary or not.

Even professional photographers seem to fall prey to arguing from the specific to the general.

I think it’s a safe bet to say that the necessity for dual card slots is a question of circumstances and personal temperament and not an absolute imperative.
Mike CH said:
Why are dual cards and backup so difficult to understand?
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They are easy to understand. The problem seems to be that even professional photographers cannot agree on how exactly and to which degree to do it.

Regards, Mike
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Rajeshb said:
tko said:
If you've having card failures, its because 1.) you brought cheap or counterfeit cards 2.) you didn't burn them in to prevent random failures (not essential, but could help.) 3.) You mishandled them in some way.
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1) I bought Lexar cards from either B&H or Amazon, 3 of those failed.
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Amazon doesn't do much to prevent fakes from being sold. For some products, its actually hard to get a real product. Did you verify the cards by contacting Lexar?

Or maybe it was bad luck. But the point is, that same bad luck would have a much better chance of making your camera fail.

Do you use two straps to hold your camera around your neck? Because I've have straps and fasteners fail. No, I've learned my lesson. I use better straps and hardware, and check them pretty often.
 
tko said:
tko said:
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Amazon doesn't do much to prevent fakes from being sold. For some products, its actually hard to get a real product. Did you verify the cards by contacting Lexar?
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I do not verify when I buy an item that says "sold by amazon.com". no third party seller for me.
tko said:
Or maybe it was bad luck. But the point is, that same bad luck would have a much better chance of making your camera fail.
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Exactly. Bad luck happens and if some people like to have some safeguard against it, that's their choice. opposite is also true.

I have used a camera with single slot before D7000, but after using the dual slot for 7 years, one gets used to it. BTW, my camera has failed in heavy rain, but the pictures were fine on the card. You don't lose existing pictures when a camera fails as you do with a failed card.
tko said:
Do you use two straps to hold your camera around your neck? Because I've have straps and fasteners fail. No, I've learned my lesson. I use better straps and hardware, and check them pretty often.
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A lot of us pros don’t shoot weddings :shudder:

And I know a couple of people who always shoot tethered. In fact, most studio work is tethered. I do product work and we don’t even have cards in the cameras.

You have a few short-sighted loudmouths on here who don’t understand things like budgeting, risk assessment, workflows, etc.

Those are the people who think “pro” means weddings and senior portraits. Yeah, well, a lot of us don’t shoot those.
 
Bob A L said:
Why would anyone need dual card slots anyway?
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For me it's a workflow thing. I have my camera set up to store jpgs on one card, raws on the other--that makes it simple to archive each to its proper location on my network. Protection against card failure is perhaps a side benefit, but, to me at least, isn't the main issue.

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lumigraphics said:
A lot of us pros don’t shoot weddings :shudder:

And I know a couple of people who always shoot tethered. In fact, most studio work is tethered. I do product work and we don’t even have cards in the cameras.

You have a few short-sighted loudmouths on here who don’t understand things like budgeting, risk assessment, workflows, etc.

Those are the people who think “pro” means weddings and senior portraits. Yeah, well, a lot of us don’t shoot those.
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M43ForMe said:
For many, single SD slot is an absolute deal breaker. I'd love to hear from those of you who really wanted a camera that you ultimately had to pass on because lalack dual card slots.
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If it had dual slots, a tripod mount and a hotshoe. Oh and maybe interchangeable lenses and a viewfinder.
 
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