Brevite Rolltop/Rucksack VS Wandrd Prvke 21

Hello!

I've been in the market for a solid camera backpack. I really love the Wandrd Prvke 21 but I recently stumbled upon the Brevite bags which I noticed are much cheaper. I'm wondering if the Prvke 21 is worth the almost $100 more (that's the photography bundle price which is what I would get) over the Brevite bags. It's also not available for another month.

I'm looking for some advice from those who have used any of the 3 bags. If someone has used the Wandrd bag and the Brevite ones that would be ideal!

Thanks,

Mike

It’s been 11 months and no one asnsweed the question lol.

im shopping for a backpack myself and trying to make this delicious too.

I tried the PRVKE 21 and liked it. But only liked it. The rubber like material will scratch a lot, the front pocket is one large flat pocket(not very useful), the backpack uses a lot of Velcro to attach things, it’s loud to open from the top, the inner lining material felt a little cheap, the accessory pouches are really small( only from the quick access door).

Also the price, for $184, we are only getting a basic bag, we need to get $35 insert, a couple of straps(really??) for tripod. That adds up the price to close to $280, where you can buy the peak design 20L, with spare for a field pouch.

Things I like about PRVKE:

Rain cover, secret pocket at the back, quick access pocket st top, rolltop design, magnetic handle on top.

So I am not getting this backpack.

I’m really deciding between Brevite rolltop and peak design 20. PD20 is a great great bag, but it’s a camera bag first, daily carry bag second. And it looks weird to me(personally).

Ive tried all 3. The Prvke is better. Its a "Get what you pay for" scenario.

Morvegil said:

Ive tried all 3. The Prvke is better. Its a "Get what you pay for" scenario.

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What’s the reason why you like PRVKE more than Brevite?

Thanks!

AARONZ123 said:

Morvegil said:

Ive tried all 3. The Prvke is better. Its a "Get what you pay for" scenario.

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What’s the reason why you like PRVKE more than Brevite?

Thanks!

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The materials. Also the Prvke you can keep on you and easily retrieve your camera to get a shot. The Brevite you have to set down and mess with it. Well by then the opportunity may have passed.

Morvegil said:

AARONZ123 said:

Morvegil said:

Ive tried all 3. The Prvke is better. Its a "Get what you pay for" scenario.

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What’s the reason why you like PRVKE more than Brevite?

Thanks!

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The materials. Also the Prvke you can keep on you and easily retrieve your camera to get a shot. The Brevite you have to set down and mess with it. Well by then the opportunity may have passed.

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Doesn’t Brevite also have a side access pocket?

did you mean it’s not as useful as the PRVKE?

I have not used the Brevite, but I have used the PD and the Wandrd. I stuck with the Wandrd. I love this bag. I carry a A7Riii, 16-35 GM, 28 f/2, 50 1.8. I can also carry a tripod (strapped to the bottom is the most comfortable with me, handheld gimbal (on the side where the "water bottle" holder is), and even a slider strapped to the front. I walked 13 miles in SF like this and it wasn't uncomfortable. The waist straps would have made it a little bit easier.

When I eventually get a drone, I can keep that in the roll top section and I can fit 1 more prime in the camera section if I needed.

This is with my Prvke 21.

lazojeff said:

I have not used the Brevite, but I have used the PD and the Wandrd. I stuck with the Wandrd. I love this bag. I carry a A7Riii, 16-35 GM, 28 f/2, 50 1.8. I can also carry a tripod (strapped to the bottom is the most comfortable with me, handheld gimbal (on the side where the "water bottle" holder is), and even a slider strapped to the front. I walked 13 miles in SF like this and it wasn't uncomfortable. The waist straps would have made it a little bit easier.

When I eventually get a drone, I can keep that in the roll top section and I can fit 1 more prime in the camera section if I needed.

This is with my Prvke 21.

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Would the face material like rubber scratch a lot?

AARONZ123 said:

Morvegil said:

AARONZ123 said:

Morvegil said:

Ive tried all 3. The Prvke is better. Its a "Get what you pay for" scenario.

Click to expand...

What’s the reason why you like PRVKE more than Brevite?

Thanks!

Click to expand...

The materials. Also the Prvke you can keep on you and easily retrieve your camera to get a shot. The Brevite you have to set down and mess with it. Well by then the opportunity may have passed.

Click to expand...

Doesn’t Brevite also have a side access pocket?

did you mean it’s not as useful as the PRVKE?

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Correct. Its not as easy to pivot over and grab out of the bag. Sorry I shouldve clarified

Morvegil said:

AARONZ123 said:

Morvegil said:

AARONZ123 said:

Morvegil said:

Ive tried all 3. The Prvke is better. Its a "Get what you pay for" scenario.

Click to expand...

What’s the reason why you like PRVKE more than Brevite?

Thanks!

Click to expand...

The materials. Also the Prvke you can keep on you and easily retrieve your camera to get a shot. The Brevite you have to set down and mess with it. Well by then the opportunity may have passed.

Click to expand...

Doesn’t Brevite also have a side access pocket?

did you mean it’s not as useful as the PRVKE?

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Correct. Its not as easy to pivot over and grab out of the bag. Sorry I shouldve clarified

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Thank you for your review!

AARONZ123 said:

lazojeff said:

I have not used the Brevite, but I have used the PD and the Wandrd. I stuck with the Wandrd. I love this bag. I carry a A7Riii, 16-35 GM, 28 f/2, 50 1.8. I can also carry a tripod (strapped to the bottom is the most comfortable with me, handheld gimbal (on the side where the "water bottle" holder is), and even a slider strapped to the front. I walked 13 miles in SF like this and it wasn't uncomfortable. The waist straps would have made it a little bit easier.

When I eventually get a drone, I can keep that in the roll top section and I can fit 1 more prime in the camera section if I needed.

This is with my Prvke 21.

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Would the face material like rubber scratch a lot?

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I wouldn't say a lot, but for the most part it rubs off. I also put mine down on rocks a lot

I have the Brevite Rucksack variation and am expecting the Prvke 21 to arrive in the next week so will provide a comparison then. Like a lot of the readers on the forum, I have been through quite a few bags through the years - I already own the Thinktank Retrospective, various Crumpler Messenger bags and previously owned many more, such as the excellent LowePro Photo Sport Pro 30L.

I love the look, style and form factor of the Brevite and it is my go to bag (for now). However I just think the final delivery isn't quite there to make the bag truly great; the side access pocket is for left handers which I've not really encountered in other bags before; the side bottle pocket doesn't really expand or fit a bottle bigger than 500ml; the main compartment doesn't fit much gear at all as the fabric doesn't expand far enough and the waist pockets are small and hard to reach as they strangely tend to sit more on your lower back than on the side of your waist (I'm quite slim build). For me one of the biggest things is that after about a year and half, the side acess pocket is beginning to sag which makes zipping and unzipping hard to do with just one hand.

2ndLook said:

I have the Brevite Rucksack variation and am expecting the Prvke 21 to arrive in the next week so will provide a comparison then. Like a lot of the readers on the forum, I have been through quite a few bags through the years - I already own the Thinktank Retrospective, various Crumpler Messenger bags and previously owned many more, such as the excellent LowePro Photo Sport Pro 30L.

I love the look, style and form factor of the Brevite and it is my go to bag (for now). However I just think the final delivery isn't quite there to make the bag truly great; the side access pocket is for left handers which I've not really encountered in other bags before; the side bottle pocket doesn't really expand or fit a bottle bigger than 500ml; the main compartment doesn't fit much gear at all as the fabric doesn't expand far enough and the waist pockets are small and hard to reach as they strangely tend to sit more on your lower back than on the side of your waist (I'm quite slim build). For me one of the biggest things is that after about a year and half, the side acess pocket is beginning to sag which makes zipping and unzipping hard to do with just one hand.

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I ended up not getting Brevite after watching a few videos about it. Thank you for sharing your experience and your review has made me feel that i made the right choice.

I ended up pre ordering the Boundary Prima System for $199 because it looks more well built than PRVKE and i like their material and color choices better. I really didn't like the face material of PRVKE.

I also liked that Boundary made an optional larger case (additional $99) for people who carry a lot of gears.

Just to update, I got the Wandrd Prvke 21 and have already used it for a trip to India and can honestly say it’s the best photo bag I have ever owned.

I love all the various pockets, I now have specific pockets for coins and keys, my passport, glasses and paper documents. I probably wished there was an extra pocket for things like extra batteries and lens etc.. but they can always go in the extra compartment, it’s just not as easy to access.

The bags size is excellent, roughly the same size as the Brevite (maybe smaller) but the biggest selling point is the expandable rolltop compartment; you can make the bag really small and compact or bigger if you really need to pack extra gear. The flexibility for me, is what makes the bag great.

I also was not completely sold on the style of the bag beforehand, but it looks much better than in the pictures (I have the black version) although the waxy tarpaulin scuffs and scratches very easily so not sure how the bag will look after another year! For me the Brevite is still the better looking bag but the Prvke is not far behind. It’s still hard to tell but the Brevite probably seems the more hard wearing, especially since the Prvke has a lot of zips at the seams of the bag so I can imagine a lot of stress being placed on them over time. Again it’s unfair to compare at this early stage however...

All in all, the attention to detail and the implementation is so much better than the Brevite, everything works as it should and I have not discovered any fobles or annoyances (as I did with the Brevite).

2ndLook said:

Just to update, I got the Wandrd Prvke 21 and have already used it for a trip to India and can honestly say it’s the best photo bag I have ever owned.

I love all the various pockets, I now have specific pockets for coins and keys, my passport, glasses and paper documents. I probably wished there was an extra pocket for things like extra batteries and lens etc.. but they can always go in the extra compartment, it’s just not as easy to access.

The bags size is excellent, roughly the same size as the Brevite (maybe smaller) but the biggest selling point is the expandable rolltop compartment; you can make the bag really small and compact or bigger if you really need to pack extra gear. The flexibility for me, is what makes the bag great.

I also was not completely sold on the style of the bag beforehand, but it looks much better than in the pictures (I have the black version) although the waxy tarpaulin scuffs and scratches very easily so not sure how the bag will look after another year! For me the Brevite is still the better looking bag but the Prvke is not far behind. It’s still hard to tell but the Brevite probably seems the more hard wearing, especially since the Prvke has a lot of zips at the seams of the bag so I can imagine a lot of stress being placed on them over time. Again it’s unfair to compare at this early stage however...

All in all, the attention to detail and the implementation is so much better than the Brevite, everything works as it should and I have not discovered any fobles or annoyances (as I did with the Brevite).

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I didn't try Brevite at all seeing that Brevite has an unremovable waist strap. It looks bulky and unnecessary.

I ended up buying Boundary Prima System and the fabric on this bag is much better than the PRVKE because of the reason you mentioned here.

So far i am happy but Boundary has a big problem in terms of the size of the insert. It holds a camera and one lens. It's not the best camera bag. But i bought it since I am looking for a backpack with some features around photography. So insert sizes is less important than the bag itself.

UPDATE: Negative feedback on Boundary Prima System:

Before I bought the backpack, I checked every review of the bag but nearly none of the reviews out there had real life testing. There're a lot of promising features in the bag and the materials are very impressive. But after I received the backpack and became a real user in the field, the experience isn't as good as it looks to be on paper.

1. The verge case as an insert is a bright idea. But it was a poorly executed one. It used very thick materials and round design to offer more protection. However, as a mirrorless user who uses Fuji and Sony A7 series, the verge case can barely fit A7ii with 50mm lens plus a 85mm prime lens. It's very tight. No review describes how small the verge case is, comparing to other similarly designed bags like PRVKE 21.

2. The verge case is attached to the bag with two snap on buttons. The buttons are very well made and you can feel the quality. However, the verge case has a smaller width compared to the internal dimension of the backpack. The verge is only attached to the backpack on ONE side. When I have my A7II and another lens in the verge case, it sinks to the bottom of the backpack quite a bit. It's awkwardly placed in the backpack. The backpack is thus unbalanced with just my mirrorless setup.

3. As a result of the lack of balance, and weight of the verge case attached on only the right side of the backpack, where the two snap buttons are located, the overall shape of the backpack is ruined. It's worse when you have a center zipper that can always show the shape of the backpack when you're wearing. Your center zipper will always tilt to the side of the verge case.

4. Because of the room left out between the bottom of the backpack and the verge case, and the verge case sinking in because of the weight, it's REALLY hard to retrieve your gear with quick-access door. Again, it's another conceptually great design, but poorly performed feature. It was a lot of effort to take my A7ii out from that side door.

5. The verge case is expandable. Great thoughts over there, but it expands to the bottom. You still only have one divider. So it's only useful when you're trying to fit in a longer lens with a long length. It doesn't create additional dividers when you want to put another 2 prime lens in. You're stuck with 2 compartments in the verge case.

6. The bottom of the bag curves up and makes the backpack absolutely impossible to stand on its own. It's not as a big issue as the other ones.

7. To support Bo Ismono's points from his short look video, Boundary prima systems weights really heavy and has a hard time maintaining its shape when it's not completely full. You can find Bo testing an earlier version on his channel.

8. The backpack allows cameras in the verge case fall into the main compartment. Because the verge case's door is connected to the side access pocket door, it's always relatively open to the main compartment at all times. I haven't had things fallen out yet since I haven't carried a really small prime lens in it. But if you have a Fuji 35f2, I think it has a chance of happening.

In short, REALLY try it on for an extended period of time before you decide to keep it. Just by reading the online reviews, you may conclude that this is the perfect bag, but it's the real life uses that make this backpack not so great.

Don't just look at unboxing videos or descriptive recommendations like the one above. Really try to find users who had longer experience with the backpack.

About return policy of Boundary, I was told they will not accept any return if the backpack has been used. When you want to try it out, don't use it outdoors and try to keep it new.