Panasonic GX with lower MP?

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OP kravemir Regular Member • Posts: 165
Re: Panasonic GX with lower MP?

Cyvan wrote:

kravemir wrote:

Looking at GH5S, and having GX80, and taking lots of shoots indoors in low light,... I thought, that GX camera with lower resolution, might be a great family camera. It would be a good tool to capture photos in any conditions... And, I really hate to use flash, because it produces bright people with dark backgrounds, very unnatural look.

A camera with GX9-like body, sensor capable of shooting a bit larger images than 4k, Dual-IS, low high-ISO noise,... Would be the camera of my dreams.

In my opinion I think you have the wrong priorities. No M43 camera, not even the venerable GH5S is so good in lowlight that it would invalidate the need to learn how to use flash properly. Low light is the achilles heel of the system. If you want great lowlight performance without flash then buy a Sony A7III or A7SII, which are considered the current low light kings.

Well, priorities I can recall now: compactness, good low light IQ, stabilization, comfort... and more-or-less supporting open-standards. Not mounts, where only one manufacturer makes a camera.

However , before doing that I think you'll be MUCH better served by learning how to use flash properly to light your subject in less than ideal conditions. Looking at your gear list , if you're just using the GX80's on-camera flash and your 12-32mm kit lens to take pictures in lowlight then believe me, there's a LOT you can do to improve things that would give you even better results than spending $2500 on a GH5S body. That's not the answer.

No way I'm going to spend more than $800 on a body,.. however, I'm not going to buy a new body any time soon, meaning years. But, I would welcome, if a low-light MFT camera at reasonable price was made until then.

BTW, I say this from personal experience because I was exactly where you are now. But a few experiences in the field made me realise the real problem was lighting and since then most of my money has been spent buying lighting eq not camera bodies.

Makes sense. But, I can't force every room, every place,.. to have a good lighting. And, for me photos without flash look more natural.

The FIRST thing you need is faster glass. A f/1.7 f/1.8 prime would allow you to let in more than 2 stops = FOUR TIMES as much light as your 12-32mm f/3.5-5.6 kit lens. A good walk around prime is the Panasonic 25mm f1.7 or Olympus 25mm f1.8. They can be had for $180-$250 USD used.

I definitely want focal length less than 20mm. Therefore, I'm considering to get one of following lenses:

  • Panasonic Lumix G 14mm F2.5 ASPH,
  • Sigma 16mm F1.4 DC DN (Micro Four Thirds),
  • Panasonic Lumix G 20mm F1.7 II ASPH.

So for example, lets say you're trying to shoot an image with your kit lens at f/3.5-f/4 and the camera chooses ISO 1600 to get a good exposure, which is just about the iso limit before it gets grainy. With a prime lens capable of f/1.7 in the same situation , the extra light coming in allows the camera to shoot at iso 400 which is MUCH cleaner output.

Using a calculator, going from f/3.5 to f/2.5 would allow me to use two times lower ISO, ie 3200 instead of 6400. Or, two times faster shutter speed... I heard, that the Panasonic 20mm F1.7 has quite slow auto-focus.


Examples you've posted are great. Thanks for lots of info. Definitely made me to reconsider to use flash, and learn how to take shoots with flash.

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