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Do we have to wait such a version or the 5 project is closed. With all the competition to be on 4K do they really produce and sell EM5 at all... On the other hand if they are going to make it, they are very slow, the mark II was an upgrade there is no reason to keep it in a full circle.

Im almost for the GX9 but cant decide before EM5 III...


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Do we have to wait such a version or the 5 project is closed. With all the competition to be on 4K do they really produce and sell EM5 at all... On the other hand if they are going to make it, they are very slow, the mark II was an upgrade there is no reason to keep it in a full circle.

Im almost for the GX9 but cant decide before EM5 III...

www.spiridakis.gr
Gia su ellada:)

I believe that olympus stay behind the competition.

Technology moving too fast with all camera manufacturers producing upgrades all the time in all their models. In m43 we can see panasonic moving too fast and olympus staying behind with no real upgrades. Their mistake is what they done with OMD line.

In 2014 they produce 3 nice cameras, Em1 Em5 and Em10, all the cameras was very close in image quality and close to functions too. Em1 was the flagship , em5 and em10 small brothers. All cameras was great, they made a boom in m43 world when they released and the prices was right. If you couldnt afford the em1 you could buy the em10 or em5 (if you need weatherproofing ) and save a lot of money having excellent image quality. Recently Olympus change everything. For me they destroy the Omd line and they stay far behind the competition. They released the Flag ship em1ii that cost 2000 euros, they left far behind the em5ii and out of the family the em10. They released em10ii and em10iii for minor improvements and not real upgrades. For me Omd line is destroy. Em1ii is for professionals with high price tag, em5ii is somewhere nosense in the middle an option for the olympus fans they wanted to "upgrade" from em5 or em10. And em10iii? is close enough to epl line. " is for people they want to move from smartphones to cameras" come on olympus? are you serious? Olympus have to try to keep olympus fans to olympus and not trying to get smarphone users to olympus. A smartphone user is smartphone user, if he want to go to Dslr olympus is not the only company. At this time Olympus is the most not friendly in terms of price tag. and also we still waiting an em5iii that probably will have a 20mp sensor and the price of 1500 euro, and already panasonic with gx9 have the same sensor in half the price..
 
Which leaves Olympus with an enormous model and price-gap between the E-M5II and the E-M1II.
 
Olympus introduced the E-M5 in 2012. (I bought one right away.) It was a major step up in image quality from all previous m43 cameras using the old 12MP sensor. At about the same time (just before in fact) Panasonic introduced the GX1, a camera never loved because of shutter shock.

Much after the E-M5 came the E-M10 (lower end, not weather sealed and IBIS not as good) and the E-M1 (higher end, with PDAF).

Since then the E-M5 got an update, the E-M10 and fairly recently the E-M1.

Olympus has its focus on photography, not video recording. The E-M10 got an update with 4K video in the mark III and the E-M1 got that update with the mark II. The E-M5 still does not have that update, but frankly, in terms of stills photography the E-M5 II is still a very good camera. What could we expect from an E-M5 III besides the insignificant increase in resolution from 16 to 20MP and the 4K video? Not much I believe, because the E-M5 II is already very good. Some people dream of PDAF but that is very unlikely to come to the E-M5 series as it is reserved for the E-M1 series. So there is no rush for an E-M5 III because there is only a small wishlist.

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Olympus introduced the E-M5 in 2012. (I bought one right away.) It was a major step up in image quality from all previous m43 cameras using the old 12MP sensor. At about the same time (just before in fact) Panasonic introduced the GX1, a camera never loved because of shutter shock.

Much after the E-M5 came the E-M10 (lower end, not weather sealed and IBIS not as good) and the E-M1 (higher end, with PDAF).

Since then the E-M5 got an update, the E-M10 and fairly recently the E-M1.

Olympus has its focus on photography, not video recording. The E-M10 got an update with 4K video in the mark III and the E-M1 got that update with the mark II. The E-M5 still does not have that update, but frankly, in terms of stills photography the E-M5 II is still a very good camera. What could we expect from an E-M5 III besides the insignificant increase in resolution from 16 to 20MP and the 4K video? Not much I believe, because the E-M5 II is already very good. Some people dream of PDAF but that is very unlikely to come to the E-M5 series as it is reserved for the E-M1 series. So there is no rush for an E-M5 III because there is only a small wishlist.
 
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A large camera shop in aus told me the em53 is not going to happen any time soon.

Don
"Soon" is a pretty loose definition of time. I am not alone in believing that Olympus will annouce the E-M5iii at the Photokina in September and delivery may not be until a few months after that. This means we are at least 5 months away and probably nearer 6-7 months, whether that is "soon" depends on the patience of the individual.

In any case "large camera shops" are notorious for not knowing as much as they would have you believe, mainly because it is usually the personal opinion of a "little salesman", who probably knows no more than the people on this forum.

In any case it will be interesting to see what is announced when the time comes.

Pete
 
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... in terms of stills photography the E-M5 II is still a very good camera. What could we expect from an E-M5 III besides the insignificant increase in resolution from 16 to 20MP and the 4K video? Not much I believe, because the E-M5 II is already very good. Some people dream of PDAF but that is very unlikely to come to the E-M5 series as it is reserved for the E-M1 series. So there is no rush for an E-M5 III because there is only a small wishlist.
You may be right about the EM5 not getting PDAF, but that will be a mistake. I think there are relatively few people willing to pay a premium price for a camera with minimal action capabilities, when every other platform gives you PDAF or at least DFD.
 
You may be right about the EM5 not getting PDAF, but that will be a mistake. I think there are relatively few people willing to pay a premium price for a camera with minimal action capabilities, when every other platform gives you PDAF or at least DFD.
I don't want PDAF because it has been reported repeatedly that the PDAF detectors on sensor cause noise patterns as these pixels receive less light and that is not 100% compensated for. I'd rather have only CDAF and the best image quality.
 
A large camera shop in aus told me the em53 is not going to happen any time soon.

Don
Interstingly, a major Olympus retailer in the UK suggested the E-M5 line might now be dead.
"Soon" is a pretty loose definition of time. I am not alone in believing that Olympus will annouce the E-M5iii at the Photokina in September and delivery may not be until a few months after that. This means we are at least 5 months away and probably nearer 6-7 months, whether that is "soon" depends on the patience of the individual.

In any case "large camera shops" are notorious for not knowing as much as they would have you believe, mainly because it is usually the personal opinion of a "little salesman",
Bit condescending, don’t you think?
who probably knows no more than the people on this forum.
Why do you say that? These guys are chatting to Olympus regularly. They are also chatting to Oly ambassadors when they host Wedding, portrait or macro workshops led by these photographers at their store.

Can’t recall the last time I had any of those intel/rumour gathering opportunities. Am I unusual on this forum? Are the rest of you guys “in the know”?
In any case it will be interesting to see what is announced when the time comes.
Yes, it will. It may come, it may not. Either way the photographic world will keep turning.

No great shakes!
 
Do we have to wait such a version or the 5 project is closed. With all the competition to be on 4K do they really produce and sell EM5 at all... On the other hand if they are going to make it, they are very slow, the mark II was an upgrade there is no reason to keep it in a full circle.

Im almost for the GX9 but cant decide before EM5 III...

www.spiridakis.gr
Seems like Olympus is making the product lines more distinct between the little E-PL, E-M5, and E-M10's.

Olympus took away some things from the E-PL, such as you can no longer mount a VF. On E-M10 III, the menus were simplified and a lot of features were removed compared to the mark II.

This paves the way for the more advanced E-M5 III, adding back things like weather sealing, 20mp sensor, MySets, improved pixel-shift, likely improved video.

All of the manufacturers need a high-end product with a higher profit margin, so more power to them. Luckily, they all take pretty much the same photos.

Greg.
 
When the E-M1 Mkii was released Olympus officials stated that they are going to start a 4 year manufacturing cycle. It appears that the E-M5 series is also going on this manufacturing cycle. Rumors are that Olympus is going to be releasing 2 new cameras this year. One is an OMD and one is an anniversary model. No real rumors on either camera.

Now that the E-M10 Mkiii has gone down market a little and the E-M1 Mkii has gone up market to pro-level, here is a lot of space between the entry level E-M10 series and the E-M1 series. Where the E-M5 Mkiii fits between is a big question. Is it going to be a E-M1 Mkii lite or a E-M10 Mkiii plus? Or is it going to be position close to the G9 or farther down market to what one would guess the G90 will be like.

I did see a rumor that the E-M5 Mkiii is going to have "space definition" C-AF, which I would guess means that it will be an advance contract AF system like DFD is for Panasonic.

I would guess we will see the E-M5 Mkiii announce at Photokina this fall.
 
A large camera shop in aus told me the em53 is not going to happen any time soon.

Don
Interstingly, a major Olympus retailer in the UK suggested the E-M5 line might now be dead.
Interesting indeed. Having dumbed down the E-M10 line a bit, I can't see that they would leave such a big hole between it and the E-M1 line, but it could be named something other than an E-M5iii. It could even split into two separate models instead.
"Soon" is a pretty loose definition of time. I am not alone in believing that Olympus will annouce the E-M5iii at the Photokina in September and delivery may not be until a few months after that. This means we are at least 5 months away and probably nearer 6-7 months, whether that is "soon" depends on the patience of the individual.

In any case "large camera shops" are notorious for not knowing as much as they would have you believe, mainly because it is usually the personal opinion of a "little salesman",
Bit condescending, don’t you think?
Not really. My point is that just because it is a large retailer, it does not mean that all their staff have inside knowledge.
who probably knows no more than the people on this forum.
Why do you say that? These guys are chatting to Olympus regularly. They are also chatting to Oly ambassadors when they host Wedding, portrait or macro workshops led by these photographers at their store.
Maybe, but are they contacts to the Sales or R&D departments? I take your point that some retailers may have interesting links, to Oly ambassadors, who may have tested new stuff for instance, but the good ones are on non-disclosure. Also not everything tested reaches market. Remember the E-7, which never made it?
Can’t recall the last time I had any of those intel/rumour gathering opportunities. Am I unusual on this forum? Are the rest of you guys “in the know”?
:-)
In any case it will be interesting to see what is announced when the time comes.
Yes, it will. It may come, it may not. Either way the photographic world will keep turning.

No great shakes!
Agreed
 
Do we have to wait
Yes, about 4-5 more months. Although I would expect rumours to be leaked before that.
such a version or the 5 project is closed.
Why would it be closed. It would be suicidal for Olympus to keep that huge price gap in their OM-D lineup.
With all the competition to be on 4K do they really produce and sell EM5 at all...
Of course they will. The alternative is to drop the price of E-M1 Mark II even further, which again, would be a bit suicidal.

BTW, E-M1 Mark II is right now just 1500 EUR on German Amazon. :-)
On the other hand if they are going to make it, they are very slow
Very slow? Looks like it will take 6 months longer than was expected. So no big deal.
, the mark II was an upgrade there is no reason to keep it in a full circle.
What does that mean?
Im almost for the GX9 but cant decide before EM5 III...
They are a bit different kind of camera I would say. Are you sure you're not just suffering from GAS attack? :-)

Anyway, even if you want to buy GX9, waiting is not a bad idea. If you wait, you will be able to buy GX9 for less money. So you win either way.
 
A large camera shop in aus told me the em53 is not going to happen any time soon.

Don
Interstingly, a major Olympus retailer in the UK suggested the E-M5 line might now be dead.
Interesting indeed. Having dumbed down the E-M10 line a bit, I can't see that they would leave such a big hole between it and the E-M1 line, but it could be named something other than an E-M5iii. It could even split into two separate models instead.
There would be too big a hole indeed.

I think the oddity though is the E-M5. It could easily have been named the E-M1 which is what effectively superseded it as the flagship.

E-M2 perhaps?
"Soon" is a pretty loose definition of time. I am not alone in believing that Olympus will annouce the E-M5iii at the Photokina in September and delivery may not be until a few months after that. This means we are at least 5 months away and probably nearer 6-7 months, whether that is "soon" depends on the patience of the individual.

In any case "large camera shops" are notorious for not knowing as much as they would have you believe, mainly because it is usually the personal opinion of a "little salesman",
Bit condescending, don’t you think?
Not really. My point is that just because it is a large retailer, it does not mean that all their staff have inside knowledge.
who probably knows no more than the people on this forum.
Why do you say that? These guys are chatting to Olympus regularly. They are also chatting to Oly ambassadors when they host Wedding, portrait or macro workshops led by these photographers at their store.
Maybe, but are they contacts to the Sales or R&D departments? I take your point that some retailers may have interesting links, to Oly ambassadors, who may have tested new stuff for instance, but the good ones are on non-disclosure. Also not everything tested reaches market. Remember the E-7, which never made it?
Also, deliberate rumour plants could be used to whip up expectation for a new model. Not that I am a conspiracy theorist 😃
Can’t recall the last time I had any of those intel/rumour gathering opportunities. Am I unusual on this forum? Are the rest of you guys “in the know”?
:-)
In any case it will be interesting to see what is announced when the time comes.
Yes, it will. It may come, it may not. Either way the photographic world will keep turning.

No great shakes!
Agreed
 

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