GaryJP wrote:
There's really no reason to be nasty. I just don't get it. What's your beef? Does it tick you off that people get good images and don't use Fuji? I've tried Fuji and my response was "Never again"
I don't even tried my Fuji : it's still in its box on my shell because I didn't have time to try it yet And I'm not in a hurry ! You won't see any comment of mine praising Fuji on these forums, because I just don't know about Fuji yet. About the brand, I actually consider it as a hipster trend, well marketed thus selling well, while dishonestly cheating on ISO. Am I a fanboy ? I just bought it because it was cheaper than a A6500, because it offers many wheels and because PASM never made great sense to me. No camera rules : not Fuji, and not Canon. Can people hear that ?I'm currently using my Canon only which my favorite camera ever. Do you want to hear what I think abut Sony ? Basically that Sony sell specsheets, and not usable cameras made for photographers. I could elaborate, as a former SLT, NEX and RX user. Canon ? no, I won't risk trouble over there.
IQ wise, my point is rather that there is no such thing as a bad camera now. When cameras are comparable, IQ differences are so tiny that I can barely see them, especially when printed. I can get that people like looking at their pictures at 200%. I actually can get any opinion and preference which is not mine. I'm pleased when people love a G1XIII or whatever. Even M43 which I used to quit and won't come back.
Maybe you should tell us we're not seeing what we're seeing in the pictures themselves.
The fact is that Adobe tends to apply a certain amount of noise reduction without letting you know and without asking you. It does this in both Photoshop and Lightroom. Not every user is aware, and I've been tripped up by this myself. I haven't recently checked whether my Capture One is doing the same thing.
Clearly the PHOTOGRAPHER has applied no noise reduction because those figures are within the software's normal range of reduction. So the question that some might ask is why you are so quick and willing to cast aspersions on their character or honesty. Pointing out what you've spotted is helpful. Trashing other people is not.
If I've been rude against the OP, I'm sorry. It was not my point.
Actually, what irritates me most is the number of "great review" comments over there and the lack of balance of many. The lack of balance of haters is irritating as well, BTW. I didn't have to zoom to figure out that there was an obvious NR : I just used to open the gallery because I've been attracted by the pleasing pictures, and I've immediately been hit by the "no NR" statement.
How can people endlessly debate about microscopic IQ differences and find them relevant, arguing about comparative noise between Sony and Canon watching the DPR scene, while not noticing immediately that there is something obviously wrong with this "no NR" statement. And they write "great review". I find that properly astounding, and illustrative of how people are biased : they endlessly talk about tiny pixel level things but don't even recognize the obvious. And it's not only one person...
So I've been very irritated and overreacted to the OP (which after all was probably not the worst over here). Sorry again.
But really, there is a problem on this particular forum. I've participated to the Micro43 where there is fanboysm ; to the Sony's forum as well in the past as well. This forum is special IMO. To be fair, I've noticed similar bias from LR fanboys on the Retouching forum.
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The answer's simple. Just use whichever sensor YOU consider "dominates" the game league tables .(Fuji?) ... oops I mean "APSC world" and ignore the rest.
I hope that you now understood that I don't think that anybody dominates.
PS : I forgot to speak bad on Nikon in this post. Does it mean that I'm a Nikon fanboy, and that I have a Nikon agenda ? Who knows...