Upgrading my GX1- Is GX85 enough for indoor sports?

Started Dec 11, 2017 | Discussions thread
alcelc
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Re: Upgrading my GX1- Is GX85 enough for indoor sports?

I was in the same shoe as yours.

G1 met an accident. Need an upgrade and by the small insurance compensation and urgency of a new camera, jumped onto GF3. Not very happy with it, purchased GX1 with a free LVF2 and used it happily for a few year. Upgraded to GX7, wife loved the new camera, and I was left with GX1 again. After tasting the newer features and hardware, got GX85 (sadly my wife now loves GX85 and after a trip, I was left with GX7 again).

I am now sure how did you evaluate your photos, when the improvement between GX7 and GX85 is small (mostly due to the removal of AA filter for a sharper image, and improved jpg engine for a less digital image), the difference between GX1 and GX7 is quite material. GX7 is sharper as well as higher usable ISO. Not to mention when I compare the images from GX1 vs GX85.

Last Sunday as usual I carried GX1 (since it is smaller than GX7/85) for my countryside walk. It was a sunny day and I got a lot of excellent picture. However, when the lighting is going dimmer, when GX1 can still able to handle it, you would find the beauty of using newer models.

On feature wise, the more convenient operating system (dual wheels to control 7 features), excellent Dual IS and its powerful IBIS can stabilize any lens now, nearly shutter shock free new shutter, better touch LCD, Touch Pad AF, Zebra, 4K photos, in-camera HDR/Pano, Post Focus and the focus stacking, 4 bracketing modes especially the very useful focus bracketing... , they can simply make my shooting more interesting and easier.

For indoor sport, it might not be the best tools yet I'm afraid. You may put on a fast speed lens for the lighting issue, and a long one in case you'll sit at a distance. However, unless you'll be an experienced shooters for the job (don't forget we can do it on MF in the old days), the AF tracking ability of GX85 might not be the best for sport shooting yet.

I don't like 14-42 M1 (kit lens of GX1?). My copy is awful because of its sluggish operation. My copy of 12-32 is great for compact setup, but limited to good lighting condition use. 45-150 is a fantastic tele in terms of price, portability and IQ. 12-35 f/2.8 is great: fast speed, excellent sharpness (but edge has to be stopped down to f/3.5-4), WR (unfortunately GX85 is not WR) etc but is costly and heavy (in terms of M43 standard)...

GX850 (a.k.a. GF9) is an entry model. It is a very capable camera but as I heard, quit relay on menu digging and its 4K video is limited to 5 minutes due to overheating concern... Entry class is entry class no matter how good would it be. There must be some difference to differentiate an entry model to a more advanced model I think.

Roy Bell wrote:

Hey all. I have had my GX1 for quite some time now and decided to upgrade. I am a causal shooter and really like the camera for what it is- very compact and simple to operate with good photos. Obviously since the camera is coming up on being out for 7 years, it's getting a little outdated compared to my Note 8 phone which can shoot 4K

I did some brief research and it looked like the most logical move would be the GX85. It's cost friendly, had the features I wanted (4K) and some extra like the 5 axis stability. However, once it arrived, I was kind of surprised of how heavy and large the camera was in comparison to my GX1. This is pushing it for a pocket camera and I am debating if I should had just gotten the GX850 like I Was going to originally. I did some brief testing around the house on objects and pets and while the AF was extremely better than my GX1, I felt the end result wasn't 7 years better than my antiquated GX1.

This brings me to the next question. Is this enough camera for indoor sports (cheerleading, vollyball, etc)? The daughter joined cheerleading this year and I obviously want to get some good shots of her doing flips. I tried shooting video this weekend with the new one and, while the video was great with the 4K, trying to grab a frame of her mid air proved to be near impossible. Next weekend I will try just shooting normally and scrap the video idea.

The GX1 proved pretty good with her outdoor sports (horseback riding, soccer) coupled with the 45-150 lens. However, in dimly lit gyms, my frustration is growing with the M43.

I am looking for some suggestions here. Should I stick with the GX85 and invest in some better lenses? 12-35, 35-100?

Current lenses I own are the original 14-42MM, 20MM, 25MM, and 45-150MM and the 12-32MM that came on the GX85

Or should I get the GX850 for a more pocket friendly camera and invest in a better shooter for the indoor stuff- C, DSLR, GH5/G9?

One issue I am having with the cheerleading stuff (since we are new to sport) is that we never sit in the same spot at these gyms. Last week we were almost on the mat and my 20mm wasn't wide enough for video. This weekend I could had used the 45-150 but we were sitting too low (judges in the way) so I moved to the floor and shot around 20mm on the stock lens. I of course did not even bring the 20mm prime this time. Spending almost a G note on the 12-35 might be great at one event, but the next one I will need more lens.

One of the other mothers was shooting with what appeared to be a C/DSLR Nikon and had some great pictures sitting all the way up in the stands. Am I asking for too much out of this platform? Or, should I invest in faster lenses and practice a little more with the indoor stuff? I appreciate the help and look forward to everyone's suggestions.

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Albert

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