Is it unwise to buy NX now?
Re: Is it unwise to buy NX now?
Kisaha wrote:
james _ wrote:
Kisaha wrote:
"Sale" prices, are not normal prices, do you buy everything on Black Friday? or you buy the things are more discounted, rather than the products you like, or need? You start with a wrong mentality here, the "sales" mentality usually brings problems, or stuff we don't really want.
I have no problem with a sale mentality. I don't know where you have been but I feel like the lenses (and a lot of brands for that matter) have pretty regular discounts through regularly stocked stores like bhphotovideo.com. Whether it's Black Friday, Cyber Monday, Christmas, Labor Day, Independence Day, etc. year after year, store rebates, or when there was that large thread on cheap new parts from Samsung spare part sites. I buy the products that I like and need when they are on sale - is that so hard to fathom? But, I don't have an immediate "need" since as I said, I am not a professional and my income doesn't ever rely on paying full price for equipment because I can wait a few months for the next sale cycle.
I've been in Europe. Those days mean nothing to me, except Black Friday that we had for the very first time last year, and it is nothing like the US (or UK, I guess).
The 50-200 never was 150$ new. Maybe you saw that on Best Buy, on a lone lens, or somewhere, somehow? I do not know. I paid full money for money a lot of years ago, and I am very happy with my purchase. It is an incredible (for its tier) and cheap lens.
Maybe you are just bad at online shopping lol. There are plenty of examples of similar lenses here and that's just one search:
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/search?mxp=200&ci=274&fct=fct_zooms-primes_4389%7czoom-lenses%2bfct_zoom-focal-lengths_2206%7c18-200mm%2bfct_zoom-focal-lengths_2206%7c28-200mm%2bfct_zoom-focal-lengths_2206%7c28-70mm%2bfct_zoom-focal-lengths_2206%7c50-200mm%2bfct_zoom-focal-lengths_2206%7c55-200mm%2bfct_zoom-focal-lengths_2206%7c55-250mm%2bprice%7c%5b*+TO+200.00%5d%2bfct_zoom-focal-lengths_2206%7c70-300mm&N=4288584247&token=c08bc386ec5fa8d4b2b71936a29fe68b&
Those are NOT mirrorless lenses. Keep reading.
What other mirrorless brand has a stabilized 50-200 for 150$ new? and what performance does this lens have?
The similar Fuji is 600$, or more.
To throw up that Fuji lens as your example support of prices is pretty outrageous.
This is the equivalent Fuji, and I mentioned EOS M also, which are cheaper, but still is 349$, same as the Sony, which is a lot worst than all mentioned here, definitely not 150$, that you throw at some point.
If you'd like to change, Fuji is the only way right now. X-T20 is one of the most amazing deals in APS-C cameras right now, it ain't that expensive, and selling all your Samsung, you can get the X-T20 with the rahter good 18-55 kit lens, and the 55-200, which is more than 600$ by the way, and half a stop better than NX.
If you like the native NX fish eye (in my top 3, I LOVE IT), then you have no option in any other APS-C mirrorless system.
If you want a very good touch screen experience, and you care only about a kit lens, a small pancake, and a cheap tele, then the M system would be at the top of my list, with its exceptional Dual Pixel AF, pleasing Canon colors, and cheap lens prices.
Thanks for your perspective here. It is appealing in its positive Canon ways, but with the way the camera industry is and the rate Canon innovates overall, I'm waiting a bit longer to see what the system will mature to, particularly when it comes to Canon's backing of it.
True. They just will go there, and they have the best AF system, the best User Interface, best colors out of the box and the best-CHEAP lenses, so they tick the most boxes for an amateur. My other proposal was the X-T20, but you have to spend a lot in glass.
They have one of the cheapest macro lenses, albeit a weird one, 28mm/3.5f with a led light (300$), the excellent and worthy competitor to NX30mm, 22mm/2f for 250$, a very very good 11-22 for 400, and the 55-200, which is half a stop slower than NX, but for only 350 (which this is the normal NX 50- 200 price anyway). The problem with the M system, is that you are going to change the body really really soon, as it lacks a lot in features, but you can start with one of the very cheap bodies, and wait for a year or two for a better one.
The 50-150S lens is incredibly incredible by the way.
Maybe just buy a 50-200 somewhere, there are a lot around, get a macro adapter (it really works, I do not do any macro, so this adapter is great for my extra-limited use), and wait until your NX1 brakes. They seem to last, I have a heavily used one (the exterior is almost melted by the use!) that I take to all the difficult places, while shooting in boats, in Greek summers in the beach, in snowing mountains in the winter (plus this camera operated in Canada for a couple of years!), and it is still goes strong. No issues whatsoever. A cheap NX300 can be a good small camera, when you want to go light and small, and it is of similar quality of the Canon M system, just for a fraction of the price used, and it has amazing all touch screen control.
Right now it is the best time to sell though, prices have kept reasonably high, and the new APS-C cameras that will be definitely better than the NX1 haven't arrived yet.
This is a good point; while the high prices make it hard for me as an owner, if I were to switch systems, it's in my advantage....
Good luck.
James,
Curious if this is more of a photography discussion...
Q: What are your video requirements?
My thinking is, if Video IS very important, it may solicit additional insightful information that will help you with your decision.
Very Best Regards,
Tu Vu
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