Is This 70-300 G Ok???

It looks fine at 70mm but at 200mm it's terrible. That lens is very similar to the 70-300 Tamron USD which I own and there is speculation that they are optically the same since the Sony was based on the Tamron design. My Tamron is far better which leads me to believe your lens is faulty. Below are 2 samples from the Tamron which is half the price of the Sony. As you can see my Tamron copy is far better than your Sony copy which confirms my suspicion that yours is faulty.
Thank you for the input and for the sample photos.

It may be the lens, it may be the LA-EA1 adapter, it may be my new a6500, and it may just be operator error. I am kind of leaning toward the last one.

I have the Tamron 70-300 in Nikon mount and I do have a simple Nikon to E Mount adapter so I can try that as well.

I also have an old, OLD pentax m42 200mm prime to try against, but that lens is soft as a fluffy pillow on a Sunday morning...

Will keep everyone updated.
 
Ok, no brick wall but I hope that a sign with lettering and a wood fence will do.

All photos were shot on a tripod. OSS / Ibis was turned OFF. Used a wired shutter release.



70mm at f/5.6,

70mm at f/5.6,



70mm at f/8

70mm at f/8



135mm f/8

135mm f/8



200mm at f/11

200mm at f/11



 300mm @ f/8

300mm @ f/8



 Tamron 70-300 at 70mm about f/7.1

Tamron 70-300 at 70mm about f/7.1



Tamron 70-300 at about 135mm at about f/8

Tamron 70-300 at about 135mm at about f/8



Tamron 70-300 at about 200mm and f/8-ish

Tamron 70-300 at about 200mm and f/8-ish



tamron 70-300 at 300mm around f/8

tamron 70-300 at 300mm around f/8



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Stay Broke... Shoot Sony!
 
Ok, no brick wall but I hope that a sign with lettering and a wood fence will do.

All photos were shot on a tripod. OSS / Ibis was turned OFF. Used a wired shutter release.
Notice the water droplets on the sign; see how they appear comet-shaped? That's a lens aberration called coma ... not a good thing.
 
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Were they all AF and had you micro adjusted? Did you do any manual shots?

Those look terrible....
Actually, from both lenses. The Tamron (assuming it is the 70-300 USM, not an older 75-300) shot at 135mm and f8 lacks corner sharpness, especially to the left, as this is an FF lens on APS-C this should be sharp across the frame.

The SAL 70-300 G shots have a blurry look to them. I cannot tell what is the problem in these test shots, but really, non of them is critically sharp.
Cheers,
Ralf
 
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Ok, no brick wall but I hope that a sign with lettering and a wood fence will do.

All photos were shot on a tripod. OSS / Ibis was turned OFF. Used a wired shutter release.

300mm @ f/8

300mm @ f/8
100% crop of this photo:

100% crop of 300mm, f/8 photo of sign.

100% crop of 300mm, f/8 photo of sign.

The fuzzy/shifted edges together with the "V" shaped coma are a very bad sign.

I just checked with my SAL70300G (poured water on a leaf to form droplets, 300mm, f/8, clear sunny day) and my copy is absolutely (100% sure, no way Jose) nothing like this.

My vote goes to returning/exchanging the lens.

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Lance H
 
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Ok, no brick wall but I hope that a sign with lettering and a wood fence will do.

All photos were shot on a tripod. OSS / Ibis was turned OFF. Used a wired shutter release.

300mm @ f/8

300mm @ f/8
100% crop of this photo:

100% crop of 300mm, f/8 photo of sign.

100% crop of 300mm, f/8 photo of sign.

The fuzzy/shifted edges together with the "V" shaped coma are a very bad sign.

I just checked with my SAL70300G (poured water on a leaf to form droplets, 300mm, f/8, clear sunny day) and my copy is absolutely (100% sure, no way Jose) nothing like this.

My vote goes to returning/exchanging the lens.

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Lance H
There may be several other issues at play here....one, these may not be sharp because they were not manually focused, two, a wet sign [bright white and red] that has extreme sunlight shining on the water drops can create a false refraction [especially blurred] and third, we don't know about distance and line of sight variables. Was there an adapter involved? This does look like a dodgy lens nonetheless...

Pouring water on a leaf isn't going to produce the same result as a sunlit white/red contrasted sign....

-Martin P

 
Were they all AF and had you micro adjusted? Did you do any manual shots?

Those look terrible....

-Martin P
They were all AF shots.

Because I am using the LA-EA1, there is no way to microadjust. There is no mirror in hte LA-ea1, so the a6500 just uses the on-sensor PDAF and CDAF points.
 
Notice the water droplets on the sign; see how they appear comet-shaped? That's a lens aberration called coma ... not a good thing.
Thank you for the input. I will try to do some research on this to confirm. I don't want to jump to conclusions.
 
Actually, from both lenses. The Tamron (assuming it is the 70-300 USM, not an older 75-300) shot at 135mm and f8 lacks corner sharpness, especially to the left, as this is an FF lens on APS-C this should be sharp across the frame.

The SAL 70-300 G shots have a blurry look to them. I cannot tell what is the problem in these test shots, but really, non of them is critically sharp.
Cheers,
Ralf
Thank you for the input. Yes, the Tamron is not a particularly sharp lens (and yes, it is the 70-300 full frame VS SP lens). I will try to use the tamron on one of my Nikon bodies.

Both the Sony 70-300 G and the Tamron are being used on (different) adapters. The Sony on an LA-EA1 and the Tamron on a Nikon F mount to Sony E Mount adapter.
 
The fuzzy/shifted edges together with the "V" shaped coma are a very bad sign.
I just checked with my SAL70300G (poured water on a leaf to form droplets, 300mm, f/8, clear sunny day) and my copy is absolutely (100% sure, no way Jose) nothing like this.

My vote goes to returning/exchanging the lens.
 
The fuzzy/shifted edges together with the "V" shaped coma are a very bad sign.

I just checked with my SAL70300G (poured water on a leaf to form droplets, 300mm, f/8, clear sunny day) and my copy is absolutely (100% sure, no way Jose) nothing like this.

My vote goes to returning/exchanging the lens.
 
You could try this out-of-focus point spread function procedure.


You seem like you've been careful enough. It probably just isn't a great copy of the lens.
 
Even your Tamron doesn't look as good as mine. Is there a problem with your camera or technique?
 
I thought you were also testing on an A-mount camera as well as the A6500. Which might be another test idea to rule out the adapter causing issues. Its best to MF your test shots to gauge the lens.
Thanks for the note.

Unfortunately I don't have an A Mount camera to test on :(

I will stop by the used camera store and see if I can test it on one of their cameras. Don't know if they will let me though. Also don't know if they have an A Mount camera in stock.
 
Even your Tamron doesn't look as good as mine. Is there a problem with your camera or technique?
Thanks for the note.

Well, I don't think it is the camera... it is a new a6500.

It could be the adapter... but the Tamron is a Nikon F Mount that was used on a different Nikon toe E Mount adapter. The sony 70-300 G is on a Sony LA-EA1

I don't think this copy of the Tamron is super sharp. I will take some tests with it later on my D750 though.

As for technique, the Tamron was manually focused and on a tripod with a wired shutter release, same as for the Sony 70-300 G.

I will try to test with my Sony f/2.8 SAM mounted on my LA-EA1 adapter and a6500 later today, too.

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Stay Broke... Shoot Sony!
 
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I thought you were also testing on an A-mount camera as well as the A6500. Which might be another test idea to rule out the adapter causing issues. Its best to MF your test shots to gauge the lens.
Thanks for the note.

Unfortunately I don't have an A Mount camera to test on :(

I will stop by the used camera store and see if I can test it on one of their cameras. Don't know if they will let me though. Also don't know if they have an A Mount camera in stock.
Unnecessary. I do my A mount lens testing with an LA-EA1. At worst a glassless adapter can add some tilt or change the back focus. It is not going to cause aberrations.
 
I thought you were also testing on an A-mount camera as well as the A6500. Which might be another test idea to rule out the adapter causing issues. Its best to MF your test shots to gauge the lens.
Thanks for the note.

Unfortunately I don't have an A Mount camera to test on :(

I will stop by the used camera store and see if I can test it on one of their cameras. Don't know if they will let me though. Also don't know if they have an A Mount camera in stock.
Unnecessary. I do my A mount lens testing with an LA-EA1. At worst a glassless adapter can add some tilt or change the back focus. It is not going to cause aberrations.
Seeing as you have a Sony A65, why would you test A-mount lenses on an adapter? Anything between a lens and camera mount will have some effect in one way or another. In OTM's case, the adapter might be keeping his lens from producing 'sharp' images.

-Martin P

 
I thought you were also testing on an A-mount camera as well as the A6500. Which might be another test idea to rule out the adapter causing issues. Its best to MF your test shots to gauge the lens.
Thanks for the note.

Unfortunately I don't have an A Mount camera to test on :(

I will stop by the used camera store and see if I can test it on one of their cameras. Don't know if they will let me though. Also don't know if they have an A Mount camera in stock.
Unnecessary. I do my A mount lens testing with an LA-EA1. At worst a glassless adapter can add some tilt or change the back focus. It is not going to cause aberrations.
Seeing as you have a Sony A65, why would you test A-mount lenses on an adapter? Anything between a lens and camera mount will have some effect in one way or another. In OTM's case, the adapter might be keeping his lens from producing 'sharp' images.
The A65 actually has something in the optical path--the SLT mirror. Sony makes their adapters quite well--as well as the mirror box/lens mount on an SLT.
 

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