Shutter Shock & Shopping for Used 2nd Camera Body

fishpix wrote:

Wondering if there are there good or obvious best options for a shutter shock-less or shutter shock-minimizing used second camera body?

As a new GX85 owner, who up til now knew only that shutter shock wasn't something I needed to worry a lot about...
... I'm now digging into shutter shock details for real for the first time, as I've started to shop around for a used second camera body (for casual use, point and shoot use by family and friends, and as an M43 system backup)...
A few options have jumped out at me and I'm struggling to navigate the related shutter shock issues:

GX1 -- inexpensive, more extensive physical controls, and I can use the LVF-2 that I have for my LX-7, BUT many reports of it being shutter shock prone, with at least the 12-32mm and 14-42mm PZ (which they often seem bundled with)
>> seems the GX1 shutter shock issue might indeed be a significant consideration, typical of the problem in general?

GX1 no....hard slapping shutter. I was so happy with the GX7 e shutter I hardly used the GX1 anthe LVF2 is a pain because it catches a lot on things coming in and out of a bag

GM1 -- super portable, more realistically pocketable with a 12-32mm or 14m f2.5 package AND EFCS which, at least shortly around the time of its release was heralded as making shutter shock impossible
>> which then makes me wonder why there 's a further 90% reduction via the new electromagnetic shutter I have on the GX85?

GM1 yes the shutter is like butter but is limited to 1/500 before switching to eshutter. But this has been my second body to my GX7. Small light but hard to use in direct sunlight at certain angles. GM5 would be better but too expensive.

GX850 -- nice size between the GX1 and GM1, 4K photo and GX85-ish menus plus flip up LCD, bit expensive even if I sell the 12-32mm kit lens (have one for the GX85) though worth considering as a 'new' camera option -- BUT based I what can find thus far, it does not seem to incorporate the GX85 "90% reduction in shutter shock" electromagnetic shutter
>> so, without the GX85-type shutter, I'm not clear on how susceptible the GX850 is to shutter shock?

This is the modern update to the GM1 with selfie option flip up screen. If you look at the GM series and this GX850 camera as using the v1 version of the new Panasonic EFCS shutter, consider the GX85 as the v2 version of the Panasonic soft shutter series. The GX8 and G7 were probably the last of the Panasonics to have that slapped shutter type.

Other Questions / Other Options?

1. Does EFCS in general and as on the GM1 indeed completely eliminate the possibility of shutter shock, as I've read?

if not completely, in my experience, nearly so.

1. If so is the reason for the electromagnetic shutter on the GX85 to recover some of the functionality lost by EFCS (at least on the GM1 - EFCS seems to impose shutter speed/sync related limitations)?

yes I think the GX85 and newer are the next evolution of the GM1 shutter type

1. Are there other Panasonic options you'd recommend for a second camera body -- I'm open to a wide range of options in terms of functionality/sophistication, as long as the size is no larger, ideally a bit smaller/lighter than the GX85 and used cost is under $400 and ideally under $200, also prefer flat-top range finder style and can live without EVF -- for example would a GFC1/2 make sense and how do those fare re shutter shock?

no on the GF1/2 Shutter shock

1. Are there used Olympus options you'd recommend that avoid significant shutter shock issues and meet my criteria in #3 -- as a Pen film camera owner I was initially attracted to the design of the E-P5, but then came across its reputation (deserved or not?) as something of a poster child for shutter shock, so wondering if something like the E-PM1 might be less of an issue or if the E-P5 issue is overblown?

Not as familiar with Olympus my sense is the Pens have issues...

Welcome any pointers or thoughts you might have -- goal is to get a reasonably priced second camera body and avoid having to deal with shutter shock concerns -- also, I recognize there is (and I've read) a lot of discussion on shutter shock, so am glad to dig into links which might help get me further calibrated on this issue to navigate the used camera body market.

Thanks/dave

Look at a used GX85. Then you don’t have to worry about dissimilar operations.  I am still a fan of the GX7, but it does have shutter shock, but I do like the 12 bit e-shutter, it works well in many, though not all situations.  I would still look for a second GX85, maybe the other color so you end up with one black and one silver.