Upgrade from 450D to 77D or m4/3

damcify wrote:

TL;DR Should I get a newer model Canon SLR or should I be switching to mirrorless for a more compact solution, but keeping image quality.

I say.. stick with DSLRs, if you wanna stay with canons lenses. Canon's mirrorless is still a generation or so behind what their current DSLR's can do in terms of speed

I currently own a 450D with 18-55 kit lens, 50 mm portrait and a 55-250 mm. Purchased in 2008/2009.

In this case, your investment in canon glass is not significant. That actually makes it easier to switch, if you would like.

I enjoy photography just as a hobby, and I would classify myself as a holiday / family photographer, although I prefer taking pictures of non-people to my wifes dispair.

Same story here, I'd recommend going in to stores to handle each of the cameras you're looking at. Sometimes, all it takes is 20 minutes at best buy to handle each of the cameras side by side, and that will make the decision for you.

I will be the first to admit that I have started to use an iphone 7 plus for the family snaps, and use the SLR for shooting outdoor football (aka soccer) and indoor floorball (Swedish indoor hockey in sportshalls).

My galaxy S7 is amazing for most uses until I need: Low light, ultra wide angle, telephoto, bokeh.

On holiday the SLR has served well for shooting windsurfing photos aswell as the touristic shooting.

More the reason to stick with DSLRs!

I have read too much about what has happened the past 9 years, wrt m4/3, bridge (fz1000) cameras etc..

That is all just noise. I'd ignore the chatter n just go with what you feel comfortable with.

After some persuasion from my eldest son I am looking for an upgrade. The reasons are: video support, better ISO for indoor sports shooting, and the fully articulated screen will be a joy (I missed that when going to the 450D from a powershot).

So my recommendations are:

• Canon T7i - Lightweight, DPAF sensor, digic 7 (supposedly better tracking), same viewfinder AF as the 80D, enough buttons for most uses, affordable body. It's the body I am using now, and I'm very happy with it. I'd highly recommend it. The issues I see is that it does not include any AFMA, or auto focus micro adjust, which is important if you use large aperture lenses. In my experience though, I am having no AF issues through the viewfinder.
• Canon 80D - The 80D is slightly older, heavier, pricier, but more capable machine, with longer battery life and a better viewfinder. I had this prior to the T7i, and while I miss the grip and customizability, the pictures aren't different from my T7i. If you aren't going to need the customization (and extra weight), I'd just go with the T7i.

The question is, should I aim at a 77D/800D (or even a 760D) or is it time to switch to mirrorless e.g. m4/3 DMC G80. I feel the market is changing and SLRs are kind of old school. I enjoy taking photos, but don't have the ambition to have a great collection of lenses.

Whatever works for someone else will not work for you. I spent YEARS toying around with sony A and E mounts. Once they started to focus more on E mount, I went with canon DSLR and mirrorless and never looked back.

I tried m43 for awhile, and there just was not enough in that system (over my canon stuff) to sell and replace everything. Also some of the m43 lenses, especially wide angle, and priced ridiculously high.

If a bridge camera had been good enough I would get one.

The Panasonic FZ1000 and FZ2500 are pretty good bridge cameras. They're fast, versatile, and probably have more features than you'll use. But sometimes paper specs don't translate well to the real world, you just gotta try n see

Any good advice?

Thanks!

Daniel