Will Nikon or Canon offer full frame mirrorless cameras soon?

Started Aug 5, 2016 | Discussions thread
myfujilife Senior Member • Posts: 2,277
Re: Will Nikon or Canon offer full frame mirrorless cameras soon?

dgumshu wrote:

Shockwave wrote:

dgumshu wrote:

Shockwave wrote:

Dennis wrote:

Shockwave wrote:

They have a 24-70 pro equivalent (18-55) - That's fine

Even that lens is dated, lacks IS and doesn't go to 16mm, like some competing options (Fuji & m43 alternatives ... Sony has a 16-50/2.8 for A mount, too). I don't know whether this is holding the D500 back or not - Sigma has a stabilized alternative and I suspect a lot of buyers would be fine with the new 16-80/2.8-4.

The D500 is the only pro grade APSC body that Nikon provides. With this in mind, if you were a pro shooter looking to use APSC, the lens trifecta is an issue. Essentially you are forced by Nikon to adopt full frame to achieve the trifecta with decent quality glass.

I've seen a number of wedding shooters shift to Fuji because they can still get the trifecta, they have lighter lenses and bodies to carry around for a day, and any loss of IQ is acceptable because it's essentially 1 stop of light (which you can often work around) and minimal loss of IQ unless you pixel peep or print very large.

A pro shooter wouldn't be using an APS-C with those expectations. He/She would likely be using a full frame and lens combo

Ah, the good old "all pro shooters use full frame" argument that keeps coming up. It's was a legitimate argument...back in 2005...

No, I was referring to your comment about the lens trifecta (or lack of) on APS-C. If you want the trifecta you're referring to, then FF is the obvious choice... and that's what a pro would likely use.

Full frame is not an obvious choice. The obvious choice is to switch to another brand has that has an APSC trifecta if you don't need full frame. That is exactly the problem that I was highlighting. If you want pro glass, Canikon force you into full frame with limited glass available for APSC. Yes, you can use full frame glass on APSC, but in some cases, the focal lengths are incorrect, like the zooms, and you are lugging around large glass that you may not want. Nikon is offering a pro grade APSC body in the form of the D500, but there are no trifecta zooms to match it, this is exactly the problem that Thom has highlighted.

APSC is quite capable of handling pro work, many pro photographers already use it. Have a look at photographers like Bill Gekas, Ted Vieira etc. They all use APSC for pro work without any problems.

So in short, the limitation is not APSC, the limitation is Canikon in this case.

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