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Exciting Pana announcements, especially for video people.

Started Jan 4, 2017 | Discussions thread
OP Kisaha Senior Member • Posts: 2,300
Re: Exciting Pana announcements, especially for video people.

brownie112 wrote:

Fair enough, was just saying if Panasonic is doing false advertisements.

I have No issue with H265, I like it and paid extra money to buy editing software, upgraded PC etc which supports it. So I have invested in this piece of technical specification hence why I brought this up.

Obviously, mistakenly, some people in the industry reported back then that the 4K/60-50f was H265.

H265 is great, if Panasonic doesn't fully implements it in their cameras, it is a big loss for final consumers.

100/150Mbps, on a 64GB cards, you can write around 56minutes (from the GH5 manual).  I have a 3 hours recording (more usually, but let's say 3), I edit one right now, and I have a few more in May, June and July. For NX1 1080p (Pro, without the hack) is almost 140minutes per 64GB card, for GH5 (100Mbps/H264/8 bit) is 80minutes. With the GH5 I will need 3 cards, 2 with the NX, and the total size of the project would be almost 40% less. Multiple these to multiple cameras and multiple hard drives for backup (I always have 1 or 2 backups). Economy of size, that is called!

Imagine the 400Mbps that will come this summer, and will be mandatory for 10bit recording (to hold more information). Panasonic says that we will need new special cards for those. With H265, they could have achieve similar results with 200Mbps (similar to the top ones we are getting with the NX1 hack), they would just top SD cards, that already exist (and they are cheaper than the new-exotic ones), and eventually one need less card, hard drive and backup space.

I am interested at the DJI Pantom 4 Pro, and the video bitrate maxes at 100Mbps. Would you prefer 100Mbps at H264 or H265? Obviously the H265 will be vastly more efficient (especially in this case that the maximum bitrate is equal for both codecs).

The quote for the H265 GH5 situation.

"I talked to Panasonic’s Matt Frazer to clarify the use of H.265 on the Panasonic GH5.

Although the GH5 is still in pre-production (things may change slightly upon release), Matt says all the regular 4K recording modes are H.264. Some have reported that 4K 60fps is H.265 but this was a mistake.

Matt says Panasonic are at the moment using H.265 only for the 6K Photo Mode as a way to compress the very high resolution 18MP images at high frame rates to smaller files without compromising quality. Efficiency is the name of the game here and Panasonic expects this mode to be mainly used in-camera to pull still frames out.

However Matt tells me he assumes the 6K Anamorphic mode uses the H.265 codec as well, because it is essentially the same camera mode in 4:3 aspect ratio."

P.S I am not very good at maths, maybe my calculations were a bit off, I surely use only a couple of cameras for big projects with the NX1, and more with other cameras. I am going to backup one of those projects with multiple cameras.

Now I am thinking about it, Canon C100markII has 35Mbps, and their files are outstanding for the size! Another reason to buy a dedicated video camera..

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