ttbek wrote:
Kubicide wrote:
Just a heads-up to hopefully help your GAS: Samsung quality can be quite bad...
I, too, was struck with Samsung GAS in early 2015 and bought what ended up being multiple NX-1's before finally giving up. This was when the kit with S zoom lens, grip and stuff was on sale for ~$2100 which was a great price (Amazon). It was the near-perfect camera for me on paper with 4K video, 120 Hz 1080p and 29 Mpixel stills
Where did you find one with 29 MP?
, and the shots that did come out were excellent - absolutely loved the Samsung BSI sensor and camera processing. Also absolutely loved the fast f/2 zoom. But the quality of everything was terrible. It wasn't as if just one thing had issues - everything had some sort of a problem even the exchanged replacements. But the main issue was with loose lens mounting on every single body. In the multiple kits I tried they all had this problem and one was so bad it would clunk and actually move/rotate ~2 or 3mm (!) when simply turning the zoom.
Actually, rotational movement like that is not a problem for shooting and I have encountered it on a slew of brands. The time to be concerned is if there is any play angling it from the image plane.
Another also made the clunk sound and produced an error message related to lens disconnect. A third kit did the same movement with no error but had a problem with the lens stabilizer not seen in the other two where 2 out 3 shots would be inexplicably blurred. Turning off the OS would fix it but I wouldn't live with that compromise. And one body had a huge cluster (>20) of stuck / hot red pixels right in the center at base ISO right out of the box. And of course there's no in-body pixel mapping.
Where were you buying. ... seems like your area may be an illegal dumping ground for items that didn't pass QC.
Other issues included a command dial on one that would randomly not work - it was like the signal was missed when it was turned. Purchased a new, sealed 85mm only to open the box and see oil/liquid residue on the aperture blades and even FOD / black dot on the inside of the rear element. Also had the 50-150 which was a fantastic lens optically but would again fit loosely on the body and clunk whenever the zoom or focus rings were rotated. Even small issues would happen like the blue gasket lens seal constantly being pinched even when carefully mounting the lens - just a bad design there with tolerance being wrong in either the lens or the body mount.
Performance wise autofocus was often very poor when taking stills
Simply not true, they have some different choices being made but being aware of how the focusing works.... the focus is very good in both cases.
but very good for video. Rolling shutter was also pretty bad in 4K
No one else was putting out anything much better anywhere near this price range.
and disappointing, but actually quite good in 1080p. But the image quality was simply superb with great colors, tones, contrast, and was the reason I kept trying to stay with Samsung and the NX-1. Had the quality issues not happened then the only real critique I'd have was with the weight as the S lens and body are quite heavy mainly due to the big front optic and metal lens construction.
Anyway, the quality problems are real and if you search the net you'll find many examples from the 2015 timeframe in particular when the NX-1 was 'hot'. And YouTube has many examples of the issues. The lens issues (loose fit, bad stab) plagued most of the S lenses and NX-1 pretty hard. Some folks were fine with the issues; I wasn't especially with Nikon as my baseline. I never had anywhere near these problems with Nikon nor Canon, Fuji or Olympus.
It was quite disappointing to say the least. But must have been karma saving me future headaches with Samsung abandoning the line at the end of 2015. They surely were aware of the quality issues and it was likely one factor among many as to why they exited the business.
So IMO throwing any money into NX now is simply a waste of money no matter how tempting. I found the D500 turned out to be a far, far better solution with the only loss being in the video side
..... the D500 draws the short straw in plenty of photo considerations as well.
(which was secondary to me compared to taking good stills). And I actually found the Nikon 16-80 lens to be much better than the S lens,
Lol, the 16-80 is not better than the S lens, it is significantly worse.
and only miss the slightly faster f/2 versus f/2.8 speed.
As someone that owns far more Samsung gear than you, I have encountered only three potential quality issues, and one of those was probably my fault (too much use in the rain and snow below rated temps as well), a second was purely cosmetic and could have been due to my storage method. The last is the problem with the 10mm I have posted about (which was not acquired new, so it is hard to say that it is for sure Samsung's fault.
The rate of issues in my experience has been very normal when compared to the number of complaints I see from others. Maybe I'm just exceptionally lucky I also have a very low rate of issues with my Canon gear.
You're right, I made a typo: it's 28 megapixels not 29 megapixels. Thanks for spotting the only error here in this post. Sorry to see that you, too, suffered from Samsung QA problems.
