When did digital surpass film in IQ?

Started Feb 16, 2017 | Questions thread
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Re: What size film?

Reilly Diefenbach wrote:

digidog wrote:

Reilly Diefenbach wrote:

digidog wrote:

The Davinator wrote:

digidog wrote:

The Davinator wrote:

digidog wrote:

Mark Scott Abeln wrote:

Large format film still beats digital in terms of resolution, but usually, when we consider equal areas of film and sensor, digital often has superior resolution.

4x5 film vs. a Betterlight scanning back circa 1999 (page 35):

http://www.digitaldog.net/files/Filmvsdigital.pdf

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Andrew Rodney
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The Digital Dog
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Even medium format exceeds the current IQ180 at 80mp. The 1999 Betterlight was what, 48mp? Not even a contest.

The proof is in the output. It's far more than just the number of MPs! Not all are created equally.

Sure even the IQ180 loses to MF. 4x5 trounces it.

This is of course comparing absolute rez. In real world situations, I find 4x5 to hold its own out to 60 to 70mp.

Got samples of the two to show us (and if so, film scanned with what?).

Tango Hell and Scitex. Digital lost. But like I said, under normal contrast shooting, the results are far closer. But it is a mistake to claim digital beat film in this case....digital still falls behind now, let alone 1999

Well I at least your testing methodology seems sound. On the Tango, was the film oil/gel mounted?

My scanner was a mere ScanMate 5000 and yes, gel mounted in the examples I provided.

Another example, real world image:

But if (Dave?) and provide actual examples of something a photographer would capture, he should show us!

That will never happen, trust me.

Trust but verify.

So Dave, let's see some other examples of actual images as I've shown.

Reilly (and I too) are kind of calling you out for additional proof of concept.

OK, Reilly; he's been put on notice. As I said, I've got no history with Dave or these examples but I agree, we need more data!

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