Played at Yodobashi Camera today :)

tt321 wrote:

zuikowesty wrote:

I also picked up an A7 with a 24-240 or some such on it, and was appalled at how bad the focus was. It simply could not focus at ALL at the long end in the store, while none of the MFT lenses had any issues, even the 100-400 at the long end. The A7II with Zeiss 24-70 was better, but still slower than any of the MFT combos I tried.

I had this eye-opening (-watering?) experience myself with the A6000. Maybe newer cameras fare better? Or maybe after owning for a while you learn how to use them properly?

Yodobashi is an experience for sure.

I presume that the camera body was the (old) A7 MkI? The MkI CDAF AF was nothing to write home about as far focus speed was concerned as anyone who has continued to persevere with EF lens adaption to Sony EF can understand.

The MkII AF is said to be much better and AF should have been good.

However I can't make myself find AUD$4,200 to upgrade my MkI body just so that I can correct Sony's mistakes myself by rewarding them with even more of my money for not getting it nearly right in the first place.  All I could look forward to is the upcoming even more refined upgrade to the A7RIII to make an A7RII purchase look foolish.

This is the same expensive re-cycling of product that put me off the dslr churn in the first place.  Sony says "great idea for making money in the camera business" - let's do it too.

I never have been very tolerant of using my full price purchase as a beta tester for a product still quite raw and unpolished. Make it right first time around so that I can enjoy it for many years - the actual cost of such wonders soon fades into insignificance.

Maybe I could do this but I have found M4/3 quite rewarding, more sophisticated, and much more economical with my investment money.

I am not unhappy in perservering with my E-M1, GX7 & GM5 combo.  Add the cost of this up and it is still far short of the cost buying an A7RII. All are now "old hat" but were so well conceived that there is no rush to replace them before they wear out.

There is a certain element of Raplph Nader's planned obsolescence when corporations take years to refine a product and I am not necessarily talking about technical advances - the human interface element has little to do with technology and depends more on their ability to get used to steam engine like controls.  If I stump up a lot of money to buy a product I expect that I can immediately enjoy using it and in that regard my fuse is obviously shorter than most.

And of course the M4/3 AF is very fast and sharp as a tack.  Of course if M4/3 bodies can be pleasant to use and will last for years then whilst it makes them good guys for the consumer it does not do a real lot for their bottom line.