Pentax lens selection

Harold66 wrote:

Historicity wrote:

Alex Sarbu wrote:

Harold66 wrote:

Alex Sarbu wrote:

Harold66 wrote:

Well yes but at the same time if you are going to compare brand X and Y doing it in either the X forum or the Y forum is a logic place

Nothing wrong with being aware of what the other systems have to offer. As long as we keep in mind that this place is dedicated to Pentax.

Yes the DA limited are for the most part very good lenses and great options in terms of size. Hopefully Pentax will continue to develop such lenses

I hope for some D FA Limiteds, or rather that the new D FA primes won't be too big.

With APS-C, it was amazing what I could fit into a tiny LowePro Nova 1 lens.

Alex

Alex,

If blame is to be assigned, I must share it with Harold, for I drew him out on his initial recommendation, not understanding precisely what he meant. Then when he explained himself I wasn't able to agree with him.

Hi Lawrence

Would you be so kind in explaining to me what you did not agree with in the first reply to YOUR question ? I would appreciate your input

I didn't think anyone would be bothered by our exchange remembering a number of discussions where other brands were recommended when for example an OP indicated he wanted to do X and the respondents though owning Pentax gear didn't think Pentax was the best system to accomplish X. After drawing him out a bit I took Harold to be assuming that X for Pedro involved first of all, being as light as possible, and indeed the Olympus mirrorless system is lighter in most instances than Pentax APSC combinations.

Yes I did not think so either and as you correctly mentioned it , It is all based on what the OP needs are. I thought I was being clear I was making some statements based on the little information provided by Pedro in his initial message

I notice that he didn't respond to my previous comment in which I describe a DPReview test which rates the OMD5 Mark ii poorly in comparison with all but a few APSC cameras in regard to Raw. Perhaps you would think he wouldn't respond to that because he wishes to push mirrorless 4/3 systems no matter what and hence in violation of the custom against coming onto a systems' forum and hawking a favorite system of one's own.

Well thank you for giving me the benefit of the. As one can see I was busy answering other replies on this thread. If anyone reads my first reply carefully , one will notice that I made distinction between better or better looking at image IQ

I may have an advantage over you in having glanced at Harold's blog. He seems a well-balanced reasonable fellow; so I can't believe that he intended anything Trollish.

Indeed I was not . Each camera system and each camera body within its system has pluses and minuses. It is up to each person to discern and keep in mind what is the most important to him/her.
In my case for instance, my choice for the M4/3 system is based ABOVE anything else on the image ratio. I grew up with medium format cameras ( never liked the 3;2 ratio even when I was shooting film) and today I will never buy a camera which would only have a 3;2 ratio REGARDLESS of the image quality

That being said, I am fully aware that a for a majority of people here, this is not a criteria very high on their list when making their choices

You give me 10 different photogs asking me for a camera advice with different needs I priorities , I probably would end up recommending a different camera in different brand for each one .

Thank you Lawrence for your offer " to share the blame with me "

Harold

Harold,

I probably wasn't being fair, but my prejudice has to do with image quality.  After reading the DPReview review of the Olympus OM5 Mark ii, I would never be tempted to buy or own it.  If the quality of the raw image of the OM5 is surpassed by that of the Nikon D5500 and the D5500 is surpassed by the K70 (which three comparison reviews say that it is), what could tempt me to ever buy a OM5 Mark ii?

I read your blog where you say that reviews are heavily influenced by the reviewers prejudices (or words to that effect) and I agree, but raw images are subject to scientific analysis and while I didn't see the analysis I assume it was done.  DPReview always rates the quality of Raw and JPEG files in their evaluations. . . at least I hope the evaluation of these files is scientific and not subjective.

I see you used to have a blog discussing light-weight travel gear.  In another couple of threads recently some of us discussed the value of the light-weight K-S1.  I bought one to have it on hand the next time I tweak a shoulder or knee and want to hike light (being an old fellow, 82, it happens from time to time).  My previous "go-light" camera was the Olympus EPN-2 with the kit 14-42mm lens; which I discovered had controls to small and fiddly for me to want to use with a bunged up knee or arm and so I left it in P mode.  After discovering that I didn't like K-S1's having only one dial I decided I'd have to use it the same way I used the EPN2, in the P mode.  And then I bought a K-S2 which I  dearly loved it.  I (subjectively I grant you) can't tell any difference between the IQ of the K-S2 and the K3; so Pentax must have done something wonderful with the software.

In reading the reviews, I don't really care about every criterion.  I love the Pentax K3 because it has excellent image quality.  The K3 is lighter than my Olympus E5 while providing superior image quality.

In reading reviews since Olympus began building mirrorless cameras and I gave up on them and switched to Pentax, Pentax has been as good as it gets in regard to image quality.

Lawrence