Not necessary. Just remain polite.
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Kisaha wrote:
arbux wrote:
flip 21 wrote:
Kisaha wrote:
Jorginho wrote:
Yes we disagree.
What you say is about as usefull as saying that m43 lenses now enter FF size since the 300 mm F4 Oly weighs 1,3 Kg and is as large as a 70-200 F2.8. You might even add: and the FF is a zoom, more usefull too and both of have OIS and the 70-200 f2.8 is faster too.
These are not the same lenses and comparable lenses for FF are much much larger.
A similar example as your cam comparison. Because if we want to get FF to be able to do what GH5 does with those bitrates and reliably we all know we need a huge cam too cool it off. The very reason why Sony after Sony overheats even at modest bitrates as 100 Mbps on the A7sii is because Sony is geared to "sale first...let's NOT deal with problems later."
NX1 is 138.5x102.3x65.8 mm and 550grs.
A7ii 126.9 x 95.7 x 59.7 mm and 556gr
A7sii 116.8 x 68.6 x 38.1 mm and 627gr
6D 144.5 mm × 110.5 mm × 71.2 mm and 680gr
GH5 138.5 x 98.1 x 87.4 mm and 725gr.
Nikon D750 140.5x113x78 mm and 840grams.
go get a life troll.
Jorginho is no troll. I really like reading his comments, they are well balanced, and relevant ...
It is great to have your imput on this forum Jorginho
You're troll as well. You're all trolls. Go back to your m43 cave!
I am a logic and reasoning guy and with the recent Jorg comments, my brain just couldn't handle the madness. I was just putting the numbers, and he was like
"...-NO. -..but the weight is.. -NO, -..but the height.. -NO, -there are real cameras with.. -NO..."
Sure you be your own advocate. I think most people think all we say is sane. My BIL is schizophrenic..he thinks the same.
When a troll like Flip supports someone fanatically, you all can imagine what kind of admiration we have here. Troll Love! Just kidding. But it is love.
If you are so logical, why are you so ad hominem here. These things we argue about here are not factual because we some facts and (to others) leave out some facts elsewhere to support a certain opinion.
There is no reason at all to diverge from the subject and go for the person I think. You naem a number of data on cams and to you that is where the story ends.
Someone else, like may says: well, I don't think these numbers are comparing like for like. and so I voice my opinion why I disagree and use an analogy on lenses in the hope I make my point more clear.
In the end when we have both used our arguments, logical dictates that one thing is sure: we disagree. Nothing is sure about my persona nor yours or why I come to my conclusions and how this has to be based on the camerasystem I use.
So I fail to see why you went for the person. To my mind trolls tend not to come with facts, rarely support their stance with reasoning and keep on reasoning but they tend to be directed at a disruption of conversations, name calling, changing subjects time and time again etc.
Anyway, I just set them to "Ignore", and go on with my life, and the system I feel most right for me. They do not buy my equipment, not bringing my family dinner, I respect anyone's opinion,
No, when you diagree and call people names that is not respecting someones opinion. That is going for the person rather than say "we disagree" which would be recpetful I think.
if they respect anyone's opinion too. It is very sad that they do not, as I am very flexible and have a great capacity for understanding the different, that is why I have had excellent conversations (and friendly and working relationships_ with people of very different racial, ethnical, socio-political, political, age background, and I am surprised that we are failing to agree on a camera's size and weight! WHICH ARE MEASURABLE!!
I want to see where I did not respect you nor your opinion. Disagreeing with someone is not being disrespectful. I politely disagreed and also politely tried to make you see my point of view. I think you are personally so convinced you are right you find a rather different view on the very same subject intolerable in this case otherwise I cannot see why you resort to calling people names.
I have nothing against you, Kisaha. I see many things I disagree with but also things where I do agree. This is a forum and disagreements can happen. I think it is interesting for others to read about it since we both seem to have a reasonabel understanding on what is available on the market and may be it helps form their own mind. After all, inspite of it being sad, on this forum we may encounter more people who want to change system than on some other fora.
So no problems, I wish you the best and let's try to keep in mind that none of us is stupid when we just do not think likewise. Oke? Have a nice day!
