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Exciting Pana announcements, especially for video people.

Started Jan 4, 2017 | Discussions thread
OP Kisaha Senior Member • Posts: 2,300
Re: Exciting Pana announcements, especially for video people.
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Jorginho wrote:

parakalien wrote:

I've been excited about the gh5 since I heard the rumors that it would be coming out. The 4k 60p and 10 bit 422 are exciting features.

That being said, I am perfectly happy sticking with my nx1 for now. I just don't see enough of a difference to dump 3k or more (including a decent lens) for almost the same feature set.

Sell the NX1...you have money enough to overcome the difference.

If I sell everything I am getting GH5+ a lens, but I have to sell all my lenses and 3 cameras for that.

Almost the same featureset?
- How is the IBIS on the NX1. Not there. It is very nice for video. A serious difference.

There is an excellent DIS and together with the lenses IS you have dual IS, with the 16-50 S it is really incredible, not as good as Pana, but it is there (unlike Fuji and a6300 and under)

- 400 MBps?

It is Mega bits per second, not Mega Bytes per second.

This are going to be true in September of 2017, so, not there yet, not even close. We have perfectly fine 160Mbps H265, others go to 180 and even 200(?)Mbps, so really 320-400Mbps in H264

- 4:2:2 10 bit is much better for colourgrading.

It is. Much better, but I don't see myself investing 5-7000 euros for a proper editing system plus monitors (I have a 10bit monitor, but 2.5K, not 4K) to edit that, so really not for most people.

- Lens choice....

This again and again! If someone do not care for long tele lenses are perfectly fine with NX, better than M (with their 5 lenses in total), on par with Fuji (with a better 16-50S and fish eye that they luck completely) and better than Sony. How many lenses do you have?! Most advanced users here have from 5-8, I never had more than 5-6 lenses in any system I ever had (FD I have 5, M42 I have 5 and a few random odd balls)

- add a speedbooster (with stabilisation)?

Yes, m4/3 is best for that, but is 650$ and the Ultra version is soft outside the center, plus you have to own EF lenses to stabilize, so more money (much more than m4/3) and huge size and weight. and we have a SPEEDBOOSTER (not electronic though) for every lens existed and for less money, but not electronically,  it may happen though, we will see. The speedbooster is NX-L

- 180 fps slomo?

Yes, great, I have 120f in NX1, GH4 was 96 and Sony crops significantly in 120. We are covered, 120 is quite impressive already, and I am not sure how sharp and whatnot the 180frames will be.

- Flip outscreen?

I never missed that, it is a plus for someone, for me I have come to appreciate the NX screen because I can't damage it in anyway, and I shoot with the camera at a center position. For Flip it is mandatory. For greater projects you can have perfectly good monitors (7 inches) from 119$. Anyway, even though we have plenty of monitors around, I have never used one.

- 3,7 MP EVF (!!)

I have never used mine. NX1's is great anyway, probably the best I have seen so far (even from a lot more expensive video cameras). I used it recently with the battery grip, just to look professional but not a real use for me. The OLED screen at the back is incredible, and I use the touch functions all the time.

- low light -4 eV autofocus?

In no way the GH4 will have better AF than Samsung! Everyone is talking about a more polished software version of GH4. I have used AF in NX and I consider it to be second for video after Canon's Dual Pixel, with the a6300 it was more unpredictable.

- Add on equipment for mik;s etc?

There are Saramonic ones for 99$ already, I do not seriously see Panasonic sell to0 many of those. (if you add to the price the 100euros log, the 400+ XLR thingy, and a few other things, you are going video camera territory, so you see, a video camera, is not making sense only for me, but a lot of video people).

The only thing NX1 has left is a 28 MP APS-c sensor. Virtually everything else is inferior to GH5. At least on paper.

https://www.dxomark.com/cameras/brand-samsung-panasonic/launched-between-2002-and-2016/launch_price-from-0-to-45200-usd/sensor_format-sensor_micro43-sensor_apsc#hideAdvancedOptions=false&viewMode=list&yDataType=rankDxo

Pana just reached NX20 territory!

What it means for you or anyone else only you can tell. But the specs of the GH5 are clear which is why it gets so much attention everywhere.

The specs are right, and unlikely Sony, I am sure they will work. The point is if it is enough to change system right now. This is for the individual to answer too. For some professional videographers it is a dream. I have some friends pre-ordering soon, when they arrive, I will let you know.

I just wish we all be happy and well until then, because it would be almost half a year until they arrive in Greece (the pre order will be from European sites, as they will be really late for the Greek market)!

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