nnowak
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Re: Would you pay more for 1080p in the M5 that is at least as good as in 80D?
ChrisI wrote:
nnowak wrote:
ChrisI wrote:
weixing wrote:
Hi,
The different is basically ALL-I and IPB. Canon EOS M5 video don't have ALL-I option.
Have a nice day.
If that is the case then, Canon is again perfectly judging this for its target audience.
Which target audience is that? The M5 is in the same price bracket as the 80D, which will shoot ALL-I.
I can't see many amateurs/enthusiasts looking to record in ALL-I and having to edit it and reprocess it to get it to a reasonable file size. Obviously it would be nice to have for those occasions when you want the extra detail and the option to post process it yourself with your own choice of settings for H.264
The M5 is more than capable of shooting ALL-I. This is another case of Canon dropping a feature via a firmware flag solely for artificial market segmentation. Canon doesn't want the M5 to be quite as good as a DSLR, but then they price it the same as a DSLR. If the M5 were a $500 camera, no one would be complaining about missing 80D features.
Good bit of detail on it here - http://www.canon.com.hk/cpx/en/technical/va_EOS_Movie_Compression_Options_All_I_and_IPB.html
Rightly or wrongly, Canon clearly are segmenting it away from competing with their SLRs - namely the 80D. I'll agree on the price point, if its not meant to be competing with SLRs then it should be priced cheaper. WIth the audience they are trying to attract, its clear they've "dumbed down" or "crippled" some of the options to make it easier for more novice users. They probably don't want complains from some users of their 1080p footage taking up their memory card for so little time of recording.
Personally I dont mind it not shooting ALL-I, I can see that it will produce massive files and I'd never be one to edit them and re-encode it back using more "normal" H.264 parameters/settings. Is there really that much difference between video shot using IPB and ALL-I? I can see for proper power users there being some benefit (fast moving objects etc), but for the majority it will just produce massive files.
It depends on what you are shooting. For a standard VLOG with someone fixed behind a desk, there would be no difference. For any type of action shooting, such as a panning shot of a kids soccer game, there would be a difference.
For someone interested in video, the competition has moved on to good to great 4k. The M5 on the other hand isn't even doing great 1080p. That might be OK in the M3, but the M5 seriously raised the bar on price.