GR III coming in 2017?

Started Nov 8, 2016 | Discussions thread
Tom Caldwell Forum Pro • Posts: 36,010
Re: questionable statements

Harold66 wrote:

rondom wrote:

Harold66 wrote:

Hi Rondom

Here it is

http://www.thedemandingtraveler.org/2016/05/18/panasonic-gx80-first-impressions/

Thanks, appreciate it! Maybe I'm missing it, but I didn't notice your comments on the EVF, and I'm still curious to hear why you hate it so much.

Hello again

Some things are as much personal preference: some like them others don't

you did not miss anything. I have yet to write the second part of the review.

Now as to your question. I really dislike the EVF for three reasons :

1/the magnification of the finder is really not good. When comparing with the magnification of the em5 markII it really sucks.while i do not have my first Em5 ( model 1) with me I am quite certain that the regular em5 is already better

I switch seemlessly between GM5, GX7 and the larger Olympus E-M1 evf - I cannot say that I partcularly notice one or like it more than the others - I have them set to do their job and they all do that.

2/the eye relief is mediocre,below what the competition offers and the eyecup feels uncomfortable to me ( you might have a different experience)

I can see where eye-relief may be a problem.  I use reading glasses but can see well enough through a dioptre adjustment on any evf without using glasses - I think that this is helpful.

As far as the E-M1 is concerned I don't even need to put my eye against the evf to see through it - the eye relief is huge.  Furthermore I covered the evf except for the eye-sensor to guard against the sunburn that this evf is prone to and was surprised that I could still see the full image quite clearly with only this small sliver of space left open. So if eye-relief is important then these "great big" evf units are useful but for others not so necessary.

3/I do not like the view of sequential Evf. I am not very susceptible to the tear effect of sequential evf but it still refreshs differently.compared to the em5mark ii, it feels like looking through a peephole

NOW, let me add a few important things.Will it bother someone's else as much : it oly depends!

Yes - poor if the user has an eye problem - ok for others.

I think, above everything else, it depends on where you are coming from. For someone who was used to NO evf at all or the one of the gm5 , it may not look as bad but it would very different if you come fro, a fuji X or XT or the recent oly bodies

Now onto the question you did not ask : would I buy it again and would I recommend it to someone else . My answer to the first question would be a NO and a NO, unless to the second one

The GX80/85 is a good camera no doubt and a very good value for the money no doubt but I think the G80/85 is better and has a better EVF.

On the other hand I have come to hate fully articulated lcd screens - I know that many will realy like them but I would rather have the smaller all round, smaller evf, and tilt screen of the GX85.

And if this is really a question of size, the em10 mark II and, especially the em5 ii gives you more comfort and better results

on top of that the em5 mIi is more comfortable to hold imo ( but you should try for yourself to decide what works for you)

hope this helps

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