Why can't Adobe and Nikon work to have LR/CC/PS process Nikon color profiles?

Started Oct 24, 2016 | Discussions thread
Neila1975 New Member • Posts: 10
Re: Why can't Adobe and Nikon work to have LR/CC/PS process Nikon color profiles?
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Simon Garrett wrote:

Neila1975 wrote:

iainlea wrote:

Subject says it all...

Why can't Adobe/C1/etc. process Nikon NEF images with the in camera specified profile ?

I am interested in a streamlined workflow so why can't Nikon give/licence the part of their View* software code that parses the in camera profile to Adobe and other raw convertor companies?

Nikon! you should be making our lives easier and not adding extra steps to get the most out of your gear.

To be fair to Nikon their software is still superior to Adobe for IQ and colour quality when viewing and part processing NEF's

I would say that's a personal preference and not a fact. There is no single "right" rendering of a raw image. You may prefer Nikon's rendering - perhaps many people do - but I don't think one can say as a matter of objective fact that either Adobe or Nikon is "superior" in quality.

For example, with my D300, Capture NX2 used to over-sharpen at times at default settings, to my judgement. Sometimes I could see ringing artefacts on sharp edges. Adobe Camera Standard profile applied less sharpening by default. However, some people prefered the Nikon sharpening, regarding it as giving a crisper image. I don't think one could say either was "right".

(I say part processing because I prefer the UI of Adobe ACR and its functionality to Nikons rather rigid and user unfriendly inteface!). If I were them, I wouldn't be too happy giving away years of hard work in order for Adobe to become an even stronger player. FWIW I still use CNX2 save to TIFF and finish in ACR/Photoshop.

I find NX2 rather clunky. I have done a lot of tests over the years comparing NX2 and LR. On a very few images the NX2 rendering was more pleasing to me, but for most LR was the same or in some cases better. However, highlight and shadow recovery are (to me) much, much better in LR than NX2 (or NXD).

Again, I'm not claiming to be "right", only that this is a matter of subjective choice.

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Simon

Indeed it is a personal preference. That said I would always expect a manufacturer to have the edge when it comes to the rendering of their own designed electronic files as opposed to a software company that has to rely on reverse engineering. I find Nikons software renders the images crisper, cleaner and with more naturally looking colour compared to Adobe rendering, which is why I used NX2 for basic adjustments before I send to ACR/PS for final refinement.

In answer to the original question, the answer is a business one. It does not make any sense whatsoever to give away secrets that make your own products unique.

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