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My daughter has really taken to photography. She loves it and is very good at it. She's asked that instead of people getting her various gifts for Christmas that the family pool their resources and buy her a "real" quality camera.

I have no idea what camera to look to get her. She likes to do scenery pics and low-light photography, but doesn't have the equipment to do it well. Is there a recommended sub-$1000 camera that is well built and handles those situations well? Thanks for the suggestions.
 
You might want to state how old your daughter is.

If her hands are small, then she probably does not want a big serious camera, so she might be after something smaller that will fit her hands. On the other hand, as the camera body shrinks, more and more of the controls are put into menus and there are fewer physical buttons and controls that most serious photographers seek.
 
My daughter has really taken to photography. She loves it and is very good at it. She's asked that instead of people getting her various gifts for Christmas that the family pool their resources and buy her a "real" quality camera.

I have no idea what camera to look to get her. She likes to do scenery pics and low-light photography, but doesn't have the equipment to do it well. Is there a recommended sub-$1000 camera that is well built and handles those situations well? Thanks for the suggestions.
Are you looking for an interchangeable lens camera? If so, the camera is the (relatively) easy part. The real question is, will she (or you) want to (and be able to) buy multiple lenses over time?
 
She'll be 15 shortly. Her hands are smallish, but not terribly so. I will suggest that she does her own research, but I want to offer her some suggestions up front to start with. Otherwise, she'll likely feel overwhelmed. It's sort of that situation when you research something new that you're not super familiar where you don't know what you don't know.

Perhaps that better question is how to I educate her on how to research - teach her what questions to ask herself that get her to where she wants to go. Suggestions there are welcome as well.
 
She'll be 15 shortly. Her hands are smallish, but not terribly so. I will suggest that she does her own research, but I want to offer her some suggestions up front to start with. Otherwise, she'll likely feel overwhelmed. It's sort of that situation when you research something new that you're not super familiar where you don't know what you don't know.

Perhaps that better question is how to I educate her on how to research - teach her what questions to ask herself that get her to where she wants to go. Suggestions there are welcome as well.
Take a look at the Fuji X line of cameras. Absolutely spectacular cameras that have a very cool retro vibe that lots of people (especially a 15 yo girl) really enjoy. The X-T and X-Pro series were just updated so you can get the first generation of both for a good deal (new and used).
 
My daughter has really taken to photography. She loves it and is very good at it. She's asked that instead of people getting her various gifts for Christmas that the family pool their resources and buy her a "real" quality camera.

I have no idea what camera to look to get her. She likes to do scenery pics and low-light photography, but doesn't have the equipment to do it well. Is there a recommended sub-$1000 camera that is well built and handles those situations well? Thanks for the suggestions.
You have to decide if you need an all-in-one type of P&S or make a commitment to a system with interchangeable lenses. Once you make that step, there's no turning back.

A premium P&S like a Panasonic LX100 or similar that could use a speedlite seems like a good starting place.
 
Perhaps that better question is how to I educate her on how to research - teach her what questions to ask herself that get her to where she wants to go. Suggestions there are welcome as well.
Bingo! I think you scored w/ this question.

There are several ways:
  1. There is quite too much information on the web. The issue is what to believe? If she can develop a BS detector so she won't believe every urban myth, the web is a wonderful research tool. In general, Wikipedia articles can be trusted. In general, Utube videos "produced" by other teenagers can't.
  2. I don't know where you are located. If you live in a large metropolitan area, find a good camera store. It's impossible to pick a camera w/o holding it! A tripod is even more difficult. The store should have a wide range of camera brands and models. Forget places like Best Buy, Sam's Club, and Costco. Don't let a salesman control the process!
  3. There are many places that conduct classes/seminars. Try Community Colleges, those good independent camera stores, and read Craigslist.
 
You can start with the buying guides here on DPR. In the menu up top.

The two big decisions are about interchangeable v fixed lenses and whether a viewfinder is a must.

I shoot Fuji but I'd seriously consider Micro 4/3 for interchangeable lenses or something from Panasonic or Sony for fixed lens.
 
You can start with the buying guides here on DPR. In the menu up top.

The two big decisions are about interchangeable v fixed lenses and whether a viewfinder is a must.

I shoot Fuji but I'd seriously consider Micro 4/3 for interchangeable lenses or something from Panasonic or Sony for fixed lens.
Or a Sony A6000 for interchangeable lenses.

Fortunately the market is full of very good cameras, so it is not too important which one is chosen.
Cameras don't get paid.
In a few years when they become more intelligent, they will demand salaries before starting up their motors.
 
She'll be 15 shortly. Her hands are smallish, but not terribly so. I will suggest that she does her own research, but I want to offer her some suggestions up front to start with. Otherwise, she'll likely feel overwhelmed. It's sort of that situation when you research something new that you're not super familiar where you don't know what you don't know.

Perhaps that better question is how to I educate her on how to research - teach her what questions to ask herself that get her to where she wants to go. Suggestions there are welcome as well.
I doubt her research is likely to be very productive, not because she's a teenage girl but because she doesn't know enough about cameras to know what to look for or to make sense of what she is reading.

I think the best advice you're received is to take her to a camera store - if that's an option where you live - and have her spend some time with some cameras.

I would recommend starting with mirrorless ILCs (Interchangeable Lens Cameras) with an electronic viewfinder. It will be easier for her to learn about exposure when she can see the effects of changes in aperture, shutter speed and ISO live in the viewfinder. Two very good ones in your price range are the Sony A6000 ($700 with a kit lens) and the Fufifilm XT-10 ($900 with a kit lens).
 
It's tough to make a recommendation with so little info and so many options. However. . . For a while now I've been touting the Pentax Q series, the Q7 or Q-S1, as fantastic student cameras. So, I'd suggest that at least as a starting point to look at and consider.

It's one of the least expensive interchangeable-lens systems to buy into, and quite versatile. The body and lenses are tiny, which means you can carry them everywhere. The controls are very well sorted and similar to Pentax's full-featured DSLRs. For somebody coming from a phone, the Q-S1 can introduce them to the entire PC-based workflow that is still used for most "serious" digital photography. (I might even suggest buying Lightroom at the same time as the camera.)

Disadvantages. . . It's got no viewfinder, you have to use the LCD panel for everything, which is sometimes a pain when shooting in the bright sunlight. It's got a small sensor and is not the most powerful or highest specified camera. Personally, I found that learning to deal with my Q7's limitations and squeeze the most out of it helped me become a better photographer, and the lessons learned were still applicable after I moved to bigger cameras.

I also found that I didn't outgrow the Q7. Even after getting a bigger and pricier camera, the Q7 still has its role as an ultra-portable and discreet camera for travel and "street" type photography.
 
I bought my 12 yo (now 13yo) daughter the Sony A5000 last Christmas & she loves using it

It's small, relatively simple to use & I've the NEX-6 so I'm able to help her with using it

Being an APS-C sensor it produces very good IQ & is excellent in low light. It also has a range of quirky feature that my daughter likes to experiment with

I'd certainly suggest this camera but as your budget is bigger than this you may care to go for the A6000 (as has been suggested) as this has a EVF also, although it's a trade off for the compact size of the A5000

Whatever you choose, enjoy

Paul
 
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You can start with the buying guides here on DPR. In the menu up top.
That is an excellent place to start doing your research in.
The two big decisions are about interchangeable v fixed lenses and whether a viewfinder is a must.

I shoot Fuji but I'd seriously consider Micro 4/3 for interchangeable lenses or something from Panasonic or Sony for fixed lens.
The m4/3 system would be a logical choice for her as you have smaller bodies and lenses. Also there is a huge selection of lenses at all different price points available from Olympus and Panasonic plus a few 3rd party makers that are interchangeable.

A friend of mine purchased for his teenage daughter the Olympus E-M10 Mark ll body along with the 14-42mm f/3.5-5.6 II R and the 40-150mm f/4-5.6 R lenses. You didn't say where you are located but if you live in the US the bundle is currently selling for $799. If you don't want the 40-150 lens it is $699 but that 40-150 lens has great IQ and for an additional $100 you can't beat the price. The bundle with the 2 lenses is a great bang for the buck and well within your $1,000 budget.

They are both good starter lenses and combined with the E-M10 Mark ll body it is the perfect size and weight for your daughter. The E-M10 Mark ll body has the fabulous Olympus 5 axis IBIS that lets you shoot at lower shutter speeds and helps eliminate shake and is a plus for shooting video. It also has an OLED EVF, 16mp sensor, 1080p video and touch LCD.

http://www.getolympus.com/us/en/digitalcameras/omd/e-m10-mark-ii.html

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1238282-REG/olympus_v207051bu010_om_d_e_m10_mark_ii.html

http://www.adorama.com/iomem10m4bk.html

If you decide on a mirrorless camera like this please make sure to purchase an extra OEM battery as these cameras are power hogs and she will need it.

Read these two links about the camera from Robin Wong who is a highly respected blogger and you will see why I think it is a perfect way for you daughter to get started at a reasonable price and within your budget. This is not only a great starter camera but it is one with many features a more advanced photographer will use so she can grow as a photographer along with this camera.

https://robinwong.blogspot.com/2016/04/5-reasons-why-olympus-om-d-e-m10-mark.html

https://robinwong.blogspot.com/2015/08/olympus-om-d-e-m10-mark-ii-review.html

Finally we don''t know if she is going to shoot raw or jpeg but the Olympus jpeg engine shines in this area and always receives excellent reviews!
 
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She'll be 15 shortly. Her hands are smallish, but not terribly so. I will suggest that she does her own research, but I want to offer her some suggestions up front to start with. Otherwise, she'll likely feel overwhelmed. It's sort of that situation when you research something new that you're not super familiar where you don't know what you don't know.

Perhaps that better question is how to I educate her on how to research - teach her what questions to ask herself that get her to where she wants to go. Suggestions there are welcome as well.
In terms of educating her how to research - how about you and she choose a small point and shoot (P&S) - with the intention of allowing her to discover what its limitations are. If you also give her an 'I Owe You a Proper Camera', she can decide more about what she wants when she finds that the P&S is stopping her from getting some of the shots she wants, yet a different type of camera won't.

Oh, and get her some books on photography too! Some technical ones, and some inspirational ones containing just great photographs.
 
She'll be 15 shortly. Her hands are smallish, but not terribly so. I will suggest that she does her own research, but I want to offer her some suggestions up front to start with. Otherwise, she'll likely feel overwhelmed. It's sort of that situation when you research something new that you're not super familiar where you don't know what you don't know.

Perhaps that better question is how to I educate her on how to research - teach her what questions to ask herself that get her to where she wants to go. Suggestions there are welcome as well.
Good candidates include everything from an "advanced" compact or "bridge" camera with a fixed zoom lens to interchangeable-lens cameras (ILC) with Micro Four Thirds (MFT), APS or 35mm sensors. For my high school students I often recommend the former. One can certainly produce high-quality work with something like a Panasonic LX100 ($700) or FZ1000 ($800). Key features to look for are bright lenses, good sensors (1" or larger), built-in viewfinders, the ability to shoot RAW, and full manual control.

The advantage of starting out with a compact or bridge is that a few years down the road, if/when she decides to get an interchangeable-lens (ILC) kit, she can keep it as a casual or backup camera that complements the bigger kit. Also, if she later loses interest, you won't have wasted a whole lot of money. In my view, the FZ1000 is just about the ideal camera for a new photography enthusiast who wants a well-rounded full-size camera.

Keep in mind that for really low--light work or indoor sports, she'll need bright lenses that will push beyond your $1k budget.

And another consideration. If she's interested in doing video, mirrorless outperforms DSLR by a large margin in this price range.
 
My daughter has really taken to photography. She loves it and is very good at it. She's asked that instead of people getting her various gifts for Christmas that the family pool their resources and buy her a "real" quality camera.

I have no idea what camera to look to get her.
And, frankly, nor does anyone here.
She likes to do scenery pics and low-light photography, but doesn't have the equipment to do it well. Is there a recommended sub-$1000 camera that is well built and handles those situations well?
There are many - the big problem is that while lots of people here will give recommendations there's a big chance that what they suggest won't be right for her.

The best suggestion so far is from Dutch https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/58469168

A year ago I had a similar requirement, except that it was for my 6-year-old granddaughter. Her parents had done a little research and wondered about the Sony Cyber-shot DSCW810B (~£60) so I tried it out in a store. By the standards of the cameras mentioned here it is, of course, relatively weak - but the key point is that judged on its own terms it is surprisingly good. So I bought it.

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There's a lot to learn about photography that is independent of the gear used; framing and composition are crucial and one can also practice editing on any sort of shot.

For your daughter such a camera will become limiting quite soon but, paradoxically, that's a plus. It's when she hits various limits that she'll discover the things that she needs, and it's only when considering what she needs that you can make an informed choice about a "proper" camera.

The year before my step-granddaughter (then 18) wanted a camera for Christmas. I dreaded being asked for advice but fortunately I wasn't (and fortunately I wasn't paying). She did her own research and came up with the Samsung NX3000. If I'd been asked that camera wouldn't even have entered my thinking but in fact she loves it and rarely goes out without it.

Yes, there's a difference between 15 and 18 but youngsters are pretty smart and after a few months using a basic camera your daughter will know a lot more about photography than Molly did when she did her research.

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Bare in mind that these have been uploaded as tiny files [as is my usual practise] and should be viewed at original size.

That's my pickup truck in pitch darkness in the third image and the first two were taken with the camera resting on the side of the truck bed and using the two second shutter delay on the Panasonic G6 camera. So not the newest and 'best' camera for the job but it shows what current Micro 4/3 cameras are capable of.

Look at the exposure compensation I dialled in and the shutter speed, which the camera chose for itself.

straight out of camera jpeg with only adjustment to crop to 16:9 in post.

straight out of camera jpeg with only adjustment to crop to 16:9 in post.

Straight out of camera jpeg

Straight out of camera jpeg

Pitch dark with camera resting on window ledge. Very long exposure.

Pitch dark with camera resting on window ledge. Very long exposure.

Any of the current range of relatively small cameras from Olympus, Panasonic, Fuji and Sony are capable of this and more. It comes down to choosing the budget, the lens choice, and probably importantly, the form factor and size. All these brands give a choice.

Even though I have several other cameras with various features and sensor sizes, my favourite camera remains the older Panasonic G6 even though my G7 is more versatile in many ways. That's just a personal peccadillo, because the G7 is a better camera, my Olympus E-M10 smaller and very capable and much prettier and the little Fuji X20 very good indeed in so many ways.

Don't worry about any of these being too complex for a beginner. They are not. They can be used in a simple way but are also fully featured so that a beginner can grow into them as they gain confidence and skill if they wish to. A more basic camera is a limiter and is soon outgrown by a capable keen photographer. That's especially the case where video is concerned, along with high speed burst, automatic features like face priority and eye priority autofocus and many others.

There's no getting away from the fact that Panasonic and Sony are the champions when it comes to a combination of still and video, which is very much important in these digital days where both media are stored and viewed by the same equipment, and now can be shot by the same cameras with equal competence. Indeed many cameras can take still photographs even while continuing to shoot video seamlessly. This is a mainstream feature of these 'hybrid' cameras [like the G6 and G7 and many many more models] not something for experts or even requires any particular skill apart from a good eye for the shot.

Some people will no doubt recommend something basic and simple like an entry level DSLR. Some will point to something top of the range and big and heavy. I recommend any of the smaller form factor cameras from any of the big brands and can only give you my experience with fairly average interchangeable lens and reasonably advanced fixed lens cameras. I can only warn against cheap compact and 'travel zoom' cameras for her, because they are quite rubbish in low light.

Here's one I took on the same night as the harbour ones but earlier in much better light, using an iPhone 5S, which is admittedly marginally worse performing than a premium travel zoom but around similar to a budget compact [in low light]. I've exported this full size, because it is, frankly, rubbish. While the scene was darker than it looks, compare the day and date with the others above. Do not buy a budget compact or a travel zoom for her whatever you do.

Have a look at this full size and compare with a dedicated mid range camera above it.

Have a look at this full size and compare with a dedicated mid range camera above it.

Yes, there really is that much difference. More so in fact than you may see rendered on this medium as uploaded.

PS. Someone mentioned expensive lenses for low light photography. I don't agree. Although I used my go-to 14/140 zoom for the above images, it isn't a fast lens and if you look at the aperture settings [f-stop] they aren't anything special. Not sure why I used f8 in total darkness, but it is what it is and the exposure was a full 20 seconds.

Indeed the standard 14/42 kit lens commonly supplied with M4/3 cameras would have done exactly the same job. Yes, there are advantages to using brighter lenses, especially in combination with image stabilisation, but it is not essential if you understand that the camera needs to be kept still. Hand held, every little helps and technique is the most important.

Well within your budget is this beauty .of a camera plus a 32gig u3 fast Sd card, carry bag plus a spare non-Panasonic battery. Leave extra lenses, in terms of fast primes and telephoto lenses for her or others to purchase as the lens provided is ideal for landscape and street photography.



Because she's worth it!
 
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She'll be 15 shortly. Her hands are smallish, but not terribly so. I will suggest that she does her own research, but I want to offer her some suggestions up front to start with. Otherwise, she'll likely feel overwhelmed. It's sort of that situation when you research something new that you're not super familiar where you don't know what you don't know.

Perhaps that better question is how to I educate her on how to research - teach her what questions to ask herself that get her to where she wants to go. Suggestions there are welcome as well.
Good candidates include everything from an "advanced" compact or "bridge" camera with a fixed zoom lens to interchangeable-lens cameras (ILC) with Micro Four Thirds (MFT), APS or 35mm sensors. For my high school students I often recommend the former. One can certainly produce high-quality work with something like a Panasonic LX100 ($700) or FZ1000 ($800). Key features to look for are bright lenses, good sensors (1" or larger), built-in viewfinders, the ability to shoot RAW, and full manual control.

The advantage of starting out with a compact or bridge is that a few years down the road, if/when she decides to get an interchangeable-lens (ILC) kit, she can keep it as a casual or backup camera that complements the bigger kit. Also, if she later loses interest, you won't have wasted a whole lot of money. In my view, the FZ1000 is just about the ideal camera for a new photography enthusiast who wants a well-rounded full-size camera.
That is true and many of us have recommended it when appropriate. It is a quite large camera, bigger than an entry-level dSLR. If she has small hands, it may not fit. On the plus side, it isn't very heavy.

Again, it's important to actually try out cameras...just like shoes.
Keep in mind that for really low--light work or indoor sports, she'll need bright lenses that will push beyond your $1k budget.

And another consideration. If she's interested in doing video, mirrorless outperforms DSLR by a large margin in this price range.
 
Good candidates include everything from an "advanced" compact or "bridge" camera with a fixed zoom lens to interchangeable-lens cameras (ILC) with Micro Four Thirds (MFT), APS or 35mm sensors. For my high school students I often recommend the former. One can certainly produce high-quality work with something like a Panasonic LX100 ($700) or FZ1000 ($800). Key features to look for are bright lenses, good sensors (1" or larger), built-in viewfinders, the ability to shoot RAW, and full manual control.

The advantage of starting out with a compact or bridge is that a few years down the road, if/when she decides to get an interchangeable-lens (ILC) kit, she can keep it as a casual or backup camera that complements the bigger kit. Also, if she later loses interest, you won't have wasted a whole lot of money. In my view, the FZ1000 is just about the ideal camera for a new photography enthusiast who wants a well-rounded full-size camera.
That is true and many of us have recommended it when appropriate. It is a quite large camera, bigger than an entry-level dSLR. If she has small hands, it may not fit. On the plus side, it isn't very heavy.

Again, it's important to actually try out cameras...just like shoes.
The FZ1000 weighs 831 grams while a m4/3 combination like the one I recommended with the E-M10 Mark ll weighs 502 grams using the 14-42 lens and 580 grams with the 40-150 lens. I would hardly call the FZ1000 not very heavy.

I second the recommendation to visit a LCS where they have a good selection of brands and let her hold the equipment in her hands.
 

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