Best camera that fits your pocket

After tons of research I've decided to get the following combo (I wanted as much bang for the buck as possible for under $1,000 USD)

Canon EOS M10 + 22mm F/2
Olympus Stylus 1

Got both used, total price paid: $760 USD

Both borderline pocketable, but I may end up wearing cargo style shorts which I like to wear anyways. It'll be nice to be able to walk around while having a large sensor camera in the pocket as well as a powerful zoom with 1/1.7" sensor and constant aperture. I'll let you know if I like the combo, or if I need to get back to the drawing board.

Thanks for all the ideas so far.
OK, but you might want to rethink the "portable fits in your pocket" concept

mirrorless is the way to go but many prefer to walk around with a pancake prime like the 22/2 and a longer lens so that doesn't quite fit in the pocket ... more like fitting in a waist pack. And I'd prefer the newer Canon M5 (but at a lower price)
 
I'm hoping that someone could help me with my dilemma. I'm looking for a high quality camera that fits my pocket. I've been shooting with Canon G7X for the past year and a half and I took it to Burning Man twice and it's basically done - lens is full of dust and flash doesn't pop up properly anymore.

I decided to take my game to the next level. Easy, right? Wrong. After carefully researching cameras for hours and hours, I decided to get Panasonic LX100. I took some test shots and I felt something was off. The pictures didn't look great. So, I decided to take the same shot with identical settings in a dim light with Canon G7X and Panasonic LX100. Comparison confirmed my suspicion. The quality of LX100 was far inferior to G7X - detail was missing and noise was completely unacceptable. This compared to G7X with sand in the lens...! First photo taken with that camera was a photo of me wearing a shirt with stripes and the moire effect was horrible. I wanted to love this camera but the photos are just disappointing.

I thought no problem, I'll just go for mirrorless but no matter where I look, all mirrorless cameras with a small zoom lens are far worse compared to Canon G7X according to reviews. Sure you can get better quality by attaching a massive lens to the camera but makes the camera too big. When size is not an issue, I just take my Nikon DSLR and Sigma 30mm f1.4 with me.

I feel like I'm stuck. I want a camera that has at least some zoom that would fit my pocket - and be better than Canon G7X. I find it frustrating that it seems like the mirrorless world has no decent compact zoom lens/body combo that comes even close to Canon G7X/Sony RX100 zooms.

Is my only option to go mirrorless and do crops to simulate zoom? For the record, I rarely print my photos. My photo folder has 110,000+ photos, printing them would be quite the challenge LOL. As long as the end result looks beautiful on my screen I'm happy.

Thank you in advance for any ideas!
I think that you are looking for something that doesn't exist, yet. I had the same dilemma, I wanted dslr quality photos but I wanted something I could have on me. I never want to take my D7200 anywhere because its so large. I looked at the RX100 III, the LX100, X100T, etc. Nothing fit what I was looking for so I had to make some sacrifices. After months of searching, I read about the Ricoh GR II. Somehow I had never heard about this camera. It doesn't make a lot of the lists for compact cameras because it doesn't have a zoom and that turns a lot of people off, originally, myself included.

I bought it and I love it. I can now take dslr quality photos with a camera that I keep in my pocket. I wish it had a zoom, but you just can't have everything. I am now looking at picking up a used RX1 so i can add a full frame camera that while not pocketable, would be a lot more convenient then a typical full-frame camera.

I guess I am just saying you can't have it all, so you need to decide what is most important to you.
You and the OP are talking about the exact same thing I want! I too have looked at the Ricoh but ruled it out due to the antiquated 16 MP count. The DP2 Merrill ticks the boxes for being dust proof and water resistant; but hand holding it is a pain with no stabilization ( lsame for the Ricoh ) and low light over 400 ISO the Merrill is pretty much useless.

How are the Ricoh prints in 13 by 19?
 
I'm hoping that someone could help me with my dilemma. I'm looking for a high quality camera that fits my pocket. I've been shooting with Canon G7X for the past year and a half and I took it to Burning Man twice and it's basically done - lens is full of dust and flash doesn't pop up properly anymore.

I decided to take my game to the next level. Easy, right? Wrong. After carefully researching cameras for hours and hours, I decided to get Panasonic LX100. I took some test shots and I felt something was off. The pictures didn't look great. So, I decided to take the same shot with identical settings in a dim light with Canon G7X and Panasonic LX100. Comparison confirmed my suspicion. The quality of LX100 was far inferior to G7X - detail was missing and noise was completely unacceptable. This compared to G7X with sand in the lens...! First photo taken with that camera was a photo of me wearing a shirt with stripes and the moire effect was horrible. I wanted to love this camera but the photos are just disappointing.

I thought no problem, I'll just go for mirrorless but no matter where I look, all mirrorless cameras with a small zoom lens are far worse compared to Canon G7X according to reviews. Sure you can get better quality by attaching a massive lens to the camera but makes the camera too big. When size is not an issue, I just take my Nikon DSLR and Sigma 30mm f1.4 with me.

I feel like I'm stuck. I want a camera that has at least some zoom that would fit my pocket - and be better than Canon G7X. I find it frustrating that it seems like the mirrorless world has no decent compact zoom lens/body combo that comes even close to Canon G7X/Sony RX100 zooms.

Is my only option to go mirrorless and do crops to simulate zoom? For the record, I rarely print my photos. My photo folder has 110,000+ photos, printing them would be quite the challenge LOL. As long as the end result looks beautiful on my screen I'm happy.

Thank you in advance for any ideas!
The Sony RX100 III or IV would probably be your best choice, in my opinion. It's a bit pricey (more than an entry-level or mid-range DSLR), but it's powerful for what it is and fits in your pocket. Seems to be sturdy construction. Just get the carrying case for it (it's about an extra $70) but protects the entire camera. The only concern I had with it is that it would only go to a medium DOF (f/11), but other than that, it's a great little camera.

I can't remember how you select focus points on the RX100 as it's been a while since I Had one, but some Sony cameras have a clunky way of selecting a single focus point. Usually you have to jump through some menus to do so, or set a Fn button to get you to the screen where you can select a focus point. It's not as quick as doing it on a DSLR, unfortunately. But nonetheless, the RX100 is still a good camera--just takes some time getting used to the focus system (selecting focus points, etc).
 
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I'm hoping that someone could help me with my dilemma. I'm looking for a high quality camera that fits my pocket. I've been shooting with Canon G7X for the past year and a half and I took it to Burning Man twice and it's basically done - lens is full of dust and flash doesn't pop up properly anymore.

I decided to take my game to the next level. Easy, right? Wrong. After carefully researching cameras for hours and hours, I decided to get Panasonic LX100. I took some test shots and I felt something was off. The pictures didn't look great. So, I decided to take the same shot with identical settings in a dim light with Canon G7X and Panasonic LX100. Comparison confirmed my suspicion. The quality of LX100 was far inferior to G7X - detail was missing and noise was completely unacceptable. This compared to G7X with sand in the lens...! First photo taken with that camera was a photo of me wearing a shirt with stripes and the moire effect was horrible. I wanted to love this camera but the photos are just disappointing.

I thought no problem, I'll just go for mirrorless but no matter where I look, all mirrorless cameras with a small zoom lens are far worse compared to Canon G7X according to reviews. Sure you can get better quality by attaching a massive lens to the camera but makes the camera too big. When size is not an issue, I just take my Nikon DSLR and Sigma 30mm f1.4 with me.

I feel like I'm stuck. I want a camera that has at least some zoom that would fit my pocket - and be better than Canon G7X. I find it frustrating that it seems like the mirrorless world has no decent compact zoom lens/body combo that comes even close to Canon G7X/Sony RX100 zooms.

Is my only option to go mirrorless and do crops to simulate zoom? For the record, I rarely print my photos. My photo folder has 110,000+ photos, printing them would be quite the challenge LOL. As long as the end result looks beautiful on my screen I'm happy.

Thank you in advance for any ideas!
I think that you are looking for something that doesn't exist, yet. I had the same dilemma, I wanted dslr quality photos but I wanted something I could have on me. I never want to take my D7200 anywhere because its so large. I looked at the RX100 III, the LX100, X100T, etc. Nothing fit what I was looking for so I had to make some sacrifices. After months of searching, I read about the Ricoh GR II. Somehow I had never heard about this camera. It doesn't make a lot of the lists for compact cameras because it doesn't have a zoom and that turns a lot of people off, originally, myself included.

I bought it and I love it. I can now take dslr quality photos with a camera that I keep in my pocket. I wish it had a zoom, but you just can't have everything. I am now looking at picking up a used RX1 so i can add a full frame camera that while not pocketable, would be a lot more convenient then a typical full-frame camera.

I guess I am just saying you can't have it all, so you need to decide what is most important to you.
You and the OP are talking about the exact same thing I want! I too have looked at the Ricoh but ruled it out due to the antiquated 16 MP count. The DP2 Merrill ticks the boxes for being dust proof and water resistant; but hand holding it is a pain with no stabilization ( lsame for the Ricoh ) and low light over 400 ISO the Merrill is pretty much useless.

How are the Ricoh prints in 13 by 19?
Yeah it's really tough to get by with just 16 MP. If I had the money I'd by the RX1R II so I can finally get enough of them.
 
I'm hoping that someone could help me with my dilemma. I'm looking for a high quality camera that fits my pocket. I've been shooting with Canon G7X for the past year and a half and I took it to Burning Man twice and it's basically done - lens is full of dust and flash doesn't pop up properly anymore.

I decided to take my game to the next level. Easy, right? Wrong. After carefully researching cameras for hours and hours, I decided to get Panasonic LX100. I took some test shots and I felt something was off. The pictures didn't look great. So, I decided to take the same shot with identical settings in a dim light with Canon G7X and Panasonic LX100. Comparison confirmed my suspicion. The quality of LX100 was far inferior to G7X - detail was missing and noise was completely unacceptable. This compared to G7X with sand in the lens...! First photo taken with that camera was a photo of me wearing a shirt with stripes and the moire effect was horrible. I wanted to love this camera but the photos are just disappointing.

I thought no problem, I'll just go for mirrorless but no matter where I look, all mirrorless cameras with a small zoom lens are far worse compared to Canon G7X according to reviews. Sure you can get better quality by attaching a massive lens to the camera but makes the camera too big. When size is not an issue, I just take my Nikon DSLR and Sigma 30mm f1.4 with me.

I feel like I'm stuck. I want a camera that has at least some zoom that would fit my pocket - and be better than Canon G7X. I find it frustrating that it seems like the mirrorless world has no decent compact zoom lens/body combo that comes even close to Canon G7X/Sony RX100 zooms.

Is my only option to go mirrorless and do crops to simulate zoom? For the record, I rarely print my photos. My photo folder has 110,000+ photos, printing them would be quite the challenge LOL. As long as the end result looks beautiful on my screen I'm happy.

Thank you in advance for any ideas!
I think that you are looking for something that doesn't exist, yet. I had the same dilemma, I wanted dslr quality photos but I wanted something I could have on me. I never want to take my D7200 anywhere because its so large. I looked at the RX100 III, the LX100, X100T, etc. Nothing fit what I was looking for so I had to make some sacrifices. After months of searching, I read about the Ricoh GR II. Somehow I had never heard about this camera. It doesn't make a lot of the lists for compact cameras because it doesn't have a zoom and that turns a lot of people off, originally, myself included.

I bought it and I love it. I can now take dslr quality photos with a camera that I keep in my pocket. I wish it had a zoom, but you just can't have everything. I am now looking at picking up a used RX1 so i can add a full frame camera that while not pocketable, would be a lot more convenient then a typical full-frame camera.

I guess I am just saying you can't have it all, so you need to decide what is most important to you.
You and the OP are talking about the exact same thing I want! I too have looked at the Ricoh but ruled it out due to the antiquated 16 MP count. The DP2 Merrill ticks the boxes for being dust proof and water resistant; but hand holding it is a pain with no stabilization ( lsame for the Ricoh ) and low light over 400 ISO the Merrill is pretty much useless.

How are the Ricoh prints in 13 by 19?
Yeah it's really tough to get by with just 16 MP. If I had the money I'd by the RX1R II so I can finally get enough of them.
If you're target output platform is for screen or web, 16MP should be fine. It's when you're doing enlargements is where extra MP is going to really show. 16MP is still a respectable resolution. Part of me says that camera companies use MP count as a marketing thing, to make people think they "have" to get a 24 or 36MP camera. I just picked up a Olympus O-EM10 Mark II which has a M4/3 16MP sensor and it does the job I want to it. But that one doesn't fit in your pocket. Point being ,don't rule something out just because it's only 16MP or 20MP. There's more to it than just MP count.
 
I'm hoping that someone could help me with my dilemma. I'm looking for a high quality camera that fits my pocket. I've been shooting with Canon G7X for the past year and a half and I took it to Burning Man twice and it's basically done - lens is full of dust and flash doesn't pop up properly anymore.

I decided to take my game to the next level. Easy, right? Wrong. After carefully researching cameras for hours and hours, I decided to get Panasonic LX100. I took some test shots and I felt something was off. The pictures didn't look great. So, I decided to take the same shot with identical settings in a dim light with Canon G7X and Panasonic LX100. Comparison confirmed my suspicion. The quality of LX100 was far inferior to G7X - detail was missing and noise was completely unacceptable. This compared to G7X with sand in the lens...! First photo taken with that camera was a photo of me wearing a shirt with stripes and the moire effect was horrible. I wanted to love this camera but the photos are just disappointing.

I thought no problem, I'll just go for mirrorless but no matter where I look, all mirrorless cameras with a small zoom lens are far worse compared to Canon G7X according to reviews. Sure you can get better quality by attaching a massive lens to the camera but makes the camera too big. When size is not an issue, I just take my Nikon DSLR and Sigma 30mm f1.4 with me.

I feel like I'm stuck. I want a camera that has at least some zoom that would fit my pocket - and be better than Canon G7X. I find it frustrating that it seems like the mirrorless world has no decent compact zoom lens/body combo that comes even close to Canon G7X/Sony RX100 zooms.

Is my only option to go mirrorless and do crops to simulate zoom? For the record, I rarely print my photos. My photo folder has 110,000+ photos, printing them would be quite the challenge LOL. As long as the end result looks beautiful on my screen I'm happy.

Thank you in advance for any ideas!
I think that you are looking for something that doesn't exist, yet. I had the same dilemma, I wanted dslr quality photos but I wanted something I could have on me. I never want to take my D7200 anywhere because its so large. I looked at the RX100 III, the LX100, X100T, etc. Nothing fit what I was looking for so I had to make some sacrifices. After months of searching, I read about the Ricoh GR II. Somehow I had never heard about this camera. It doesn't make a lot of the lists for compact cameras because it doesn't have a zoom and that turns a lot of people off, originally, myself included.

I bought it and I love it. I can now take dslr quality photos with a camera that I keep in my pocket. I wish it had a zoom, but you just can't have everything. I am now looking at picking up a used RX1 so i can add a full frame camera that while not pocketable, would be a lot more convenient then a typical full-frame camera.

I guess I am just saying you can't have it all, so you need to decide what is most important to you.
You and the OP are talking about the exact same thing I want! I too have looked at the Ricoh but ruled it out due to the antiquated 16 MP count. The DP2 Merrill ticks the boxes for being dust proof and water resistant; but hand holding it is a pain with no stabilization ( lsame for the Ricoh ) and low light over 400 ISO the Merrill is pretty much useless.

How are the Ricoh prints in 13 by 19?
Yeah it's really tough to get by with just 16 MP. If I had the money I'd by the RX1R II so I can finally get enough of them.
If you're target output platform is for screen or web, 16MP should be fine. It's when you're doing enlargements is where extra MP is going to really show. 16MP is still a respectable resolution. Part of me says that camera companies use MP count as a marketing thing, to make people think they "have" to get a 24 or 36MP camera. I just picked up a Olympus O-EM10 Mark II which has a M4/3 16MP sensor and it does the job I want to it. But that one doesn't fit in your pocket. Point being ,don't rule something out just because it's only 16MP or 20MP. There's more to it than just MP count.
yes, I've printed plenty of large calendars with only 18 MP - looks fine to me and others

After a point megapixels are more about the marketing

www.flickr.com/photos/mmirrorless
 
I'm hoping that someone could help me with my dilemma. I'm looking for a high quality camera that fits my pocket. I've been shooting with Canon G7X for the past year and a half and I took it to Burning Man twice and it's basically done - lens is full of dust and flash doesn't pop up properly anymore.

I decided to take my game to the next level. Easy, right? Wrong. After carefully researching cameras for hours and hours, I decided to get Panasonic LX100. I took some test shots and I felt something was off. The pictures didn't look great. So, I decided to take the same shot with identical settings in a dim light with Canon G7X and Panasonic LX100. Comparison confirmed my suspicion. The quality of LX100 was far inferior to G7X - detail was missing and noise was completely unacceptable. This compared to G7X with sand in the lens...! First photo taken with that camera was a photo of me wearing a shirt with stripes and the moire effect was horrible. I wanted to love this camera but the photos are just disappointing.

I thought no problem, I'll just go for mirrorless but no matter where I look, all mirrorless cameras with a small zoom lens are far worse compared to Canon G7X according to reviews. Sure you can get better quality by attaching a massive lens to the camera but makes the camera too big. When size is not an issue, I just take my Nikon DSLR and Sigma 30mm f1.4 with me.

I feel like I'm stuck. I want a camera that has at least some zoom that would fit my pocket - and be better than Canon G7X. I find it frustrating that it seems like the mirrorless world has no decent compact zoom lens/body combo that comes even close to Canon G7X/Sony RX100 zooms.

Is my only option to go mirrorless and do crops to simulate zoom? For the record, I rarely print my photos. My photo folder has 110,000+ photos, printing them would be quite the challenge LOL. As long as the end result looks beautiful on my screen I'm happy.

Thank you in advance for any ideas!
I think that you are looking for something that doesn't exist, yet. I had the same dilemma, I wanted dslr quality photos but I wanted something I could have on me. I never want to take my D7200 anywhere because its so large. I looked at the RX100 III, the LX100, X100T, etc. Nothing fit what I was looking for so I had to make some sacrifices. After months of searching, I read about the Ricoh GR II. Somehow I had never heard about this camera. It doesn't make a lot of the lists for compact cameras because it doesn't have a zoom and that turns a lot of people off, originally, myself included.

I bought it and I love it. I can now take dslr quality photos with a camera that I keep in my pocket. I wish it had a zoom, but you just can't have everything. I am now looking at picking up a used RX1 so i can add a full frame camera that while not pocketable, would be a lot more convenient then a typical full-frame camera.

I guess I am just saying you can't have it all, so you need to decide what is most important to you.
You and the OP are talking about the exact same thing I want! I too have looked at the Ricoh but ruled it out due to the antiquated 16 MP count. The DP2 Merrill ticks the boxes for being dust proof and water resistant; but hand holding it is a pain with no stabilization ( lsame for the Ricoh ) and low light over 400 ISO the Merrill is pretty much useless.

How are the Ricoh prints in 13 by 19?
Yeah it's really tough to get by with just 16 MP. If I had the money I'd by the RX1R II so I can finally get enough of them.
If you're target output platform is for screen or web, 16MP should be fine. It's when you're doing enlargements is where extra MP is going to really show. 16MP is still a respectable resolution. Part of me says that camera companies use MP count as a marketing thing, to make people think they "have" to get a 24 or 36MP camera. I just picked up a Olympus O-EM10 Mark II which has a M4/3 16MP sensor and it does the job I want to it. But that one doesn't fit in your pocket. Point being ,don't rule something out just because it's only 16MP or 20MP. There's more to it than just MP count.
Its print size I want. I don't print out a ton of pictures at 13 by 19, but when I do, I want them to look outstanding.. The new Oly I think will have 20 MP and its on my short list; not sure how small it is though.
 
I'm hoping that someone could help me with my dilemma. I'm looking for a high quality camera that fits my pocket. I've been shooting with Canon G7X for the past year and a half and I took it to Burning Man twice and it's basically done - lens is full of dust and flash doesn't pop up properly anymore.

I decided to take my game to the next level. Easy, right? Wrong. After carefully researching cameras for hours and hours, I decided to get Panasonic LX100. I took some test shots and I felt something was off. The pictures didn't look great. So, I decided to take the same shot with identical settings in a dim light with Canon G7X and Panasonic LX100. Comparison confirmed my suspicion. The quality of LX100 was far inferior to G7X - detail was missing and noise was completely unacceptable. This compared to G7X with sand in the lens...! First photo taken with that camera was a photo of me wearing a shirt with stripes and the moire effect was horrible. I wanted to love this camera but the photos are just disappointing.

I thought no problem, I'll just go for mirrorless but no matter where I look, all mirrorless cameras with a small zoom lens are far worse compared to Canon G7X according to reviews. Sure you can get better quality by attaching a massive lens to the camera but makes the camera too big. When size is not an issue, I just take my Nikon DSLR and Sigma 30mm f1.4 with me.

I feel like I'm stuck. I want a camera that has at least some zoom that would fit my pocket - and be better than Canon G7X. I find it frustrating that it seems like the mirrorless world has no decent compact zoom lens/body combo that comes even close to Canon G7X/Sony RX100 zooms.

Is my only option to go mirrorless and do crops to simulate zoom? For the record, I rarely print my photos. My photo folder has 110,000+ photos, printing them would be quite the challenge LOL. As long as the end result looks beautiful on my screen I'm happy.

Thank you in advance for any ideas!
I think that you are looking for something that doesn't exist, yet. I had the same dilemma, I wanted dslr quality photos but I wanted something I could have on me. I never want to take my D7200 anywhere because its so large. I looked at the RX100 III, the LX100, X100T, etc. Nothing fit what I was looking for so I had to make some sacrifices. After months of searching, I read about the Ricoh GR II. Somehow I had never heard about this camera. It doesn't make a lot of the lists for compact cameras because it doesn't have a zoom and that turns a lot of people off, originally, myself included.

I bought it and I love it. I can now take dslr quality photos with a camera that I keep in my pocket. I wish it had a zoom, but you just can't have everything. I am now looking at picking up a used RX1 so i can add a full frame camera that while not pocketable, would be a lot more convenient then a typical full-frame camera.

I guess I am just saying you can't have it all, so you need to decide what is most important to you.
You and the OP are talking about the exact same thing I want! I too have looked at the Ricoh but ruled it out due to the antiquated 16 MP count. The DP2 Merrill ticks the boxes for being dust proof and water resistant; but hand holding it is a pain with no stabilization ( lsame for the Ricoh ) and low light over 400 ISO the Merrill is pretty much useless.

How are the Ricoh prints in 13 by 19?
Yeah it's really tough to get by with just 16 MP. If I had the money I'd by the RX1R II so I can finally get enough of them.
If you're target output platform is for screen or web, 16MP should be fine. It's when you're doing enlargements is where extra MP is going to really show. 16MP is still a respectable resolution. Part of me says that camera companies use MP count as a marketing thing, to make people think they "have" to get a 24 or 36MP camera. I just picked up a Olympus O-EM10 Mark II which has a M4/3 16MP sensor and it does the job I want to it. But that one doesn't fit in your pocket. Point being ,don't rule something out just because it's only 16MP or 20MP. There's more to it than just MP count.
Its print size I want. I don't print out a ton of pictures at 13 by 19, but when I do, I want them to look outstanding.. The new Oly I think will have 20 MP and its on my short list; not sure how small it is though.
If it's the Olympus O-EM10 Mark II, it's only 16MP.. But I think you can still do 13x19 with 16MP. That may be the limit, but I think it's still reasonable. Now, it also will depend on what technology is being used to do the prints and how it's being enlarged.

Are you doing these prints yourself or are you sending them off to a lab to be enlarged and printed? From the quick Google search I did, you should be fine with a 16MP image for 13x19" or somewhere around there. There are ways to get it larger without deforming the images, though, and many print labs will know how to do this I think.

For pocketable cameras, you are exchanging convenience for quality in many cases. Most pocket sized cameras lack high ISO image quality (they tend to suffer more than their larger siblings--the ones with the APS-C sensors and FF sensors). So is it a must that it be pocket sized and fit in your pocket? Something like the a6000 would be a great camera, but it doesn't quite fit in the pocket (but is much smaller than the average DSLR, but it's probably no bigger than your GX7, and if it is, not by much). Plus the a6000 is a 24MP so you could pull off larger prints much easier. But in short, 16MP shouild be fine for the size prints you are talking.
 
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I'm hoping that someone could help me with my dilemma. I'm looking for a high quality camera that fits my pocket. I've been shooting with Canon G7X for the past year and a half and I took it to Burning Man twice and it's basically done - lens is full of dust and flash doesn't pop up properly anymore.

I decided to take my game to the next level. Easy, right? Wrong. After carefully researching cameras for hours and hours, I decided to get Panasonic LX100. I took some test shots and I felt something was off. The pictures didn't look great. So, I decided to take the same shot with identical settings in a dim light with Canon G7X and Panasonic LX100. Comparison confirmed my suspicion. The quality of LX100 was far inferior to G7X - detail was missing and noise was completely unacceptable. This compared to G7X with sand in the lens...! First photo taken with that camera was a photo of me wearing a shirt with stripes and the moire effect was horrible. I wanted to love this camera but the photos are just disappointing.

I thought no problem, I'll just go for mirrorless but no matter where I look, all mirrorless cameras with a small zoom lens are far worse compared to Canon G7X according to reviews. Sure you can get better quality by attaching a massive lens to the camera but makes the camera too big. When size is not an issue, I just take my Nikon DSLR and Sigma 30mm f1.4 with me.

I feel like I'm stuck. I want a camera that has at least some zoom that would fit my pocket - and be better than Canon G7X. I find it frustrating that it seems like the mirrorless world has no decent compact zoom lens/body combo that comes even close to Canon G7X/Sony RX100 zooms.

Is my only option to go mirrorless and do crops to simulate zoom? For the record, I rarely print my photos. My photo folder has 110,000+ photos, printing them would be quite the challenge LOL. As long as the end result looks beautiful on my screen I'm happy.

Thank you in advance for any ideas!
I think that you are looking for something that doesn't exist, yet. I had the same dilemma, I wanted dslr quality photos but I wanted something I could have on me. I never want to take my D7200 anywhere because its so large. I looked at the RX100 III, the LX100, X100T, etc. Nothing fit what I was looking for so I had to make some sacrifices. After months of searching, I read about the Ricoh GR II. Somehow I had never heard about this camera. It doesn't make a lot of the lists for compact cameras because it doesn't have a zoom and that turns a lot of people off, originally, myself included.

I bought it and I love it. I can now take dslr quality photos with a camera that I keep in my pocket. I wish it had a zoom, but you just can't have everything. I am now looking at picking up a used RX1 so i can add a full frame camera that while not pocketable, would be a lot more convenient then a typical full-frame camera.

I guess I am just saying you can't have it all, so you need to decide what is most important to you.
You and the OP are talking about the exact same thing I want! I too have looked at the Ricoh but ruled it out due to the antiquated 16 MP count. The DP2 Merrill ticks the boxes for being dust proof and water resistant; but hand holding it is a pain with no stabilization ( lsame for the Ricoh ) and low light over 400 ISO the Merrill is pretty much useless.

How are the Ricoh prints in 13 by 19?
Yeah it's really tough to get by with just 16 MP. If I had the money I'd by the RX1R II so I can finally get enough of them.
If you're target output platform is for screen or web, 16MP should be fine. It's when you're doing enlargements is where extra MP is going to really show. 16MP is still a respectable resolution. Part of me says that camera companies use MP count as a marketing thing, to make people think they "have" to get a 24 or 36MP camera. I just picked up a Olympus O-EM10 Mark II which has a M4/3 16MP sensor and it does the job I want to it. But that one doesn't fit in your pocket. Point being ,don't rule something out just because it's only 16MP or 20MP. There's more to it than just MP count.
Its print size I want. I don't print out a ton of pictures at 13 by 19, but when I do, I want them to look outstanding.. The new Oly I think will have 20 MP and its on my short list; not sure how small it is though.
If it's the Olympus O-EM10 Mark II, it's only 16MP.. But I think you can still do 13x19 with 16MP. That may be the limit, but I think it's still reasonable. Now, it also will depend on what technology is being used to do the prints and how it's being enlarged.

Are you doing these prints yourself or are you sending them off to a lab to be enlarged and printed? From the quick Google search I did, you should be fine with a 16MP image for 13x19" or somewhere around there. There are ways to get it larger without deforming the images, though, and many print labs will know how to do this I think.

For pocketable cameras, you are exchanging convenience for quality in many cases. Most pocket sized cameras lack high ISO image quality (they tend to suffer more than their larger siblings--the ones with the APS-C sensors and FF sensors). So is it a must that it be pocket sized and fit in your pocket? Something like the a6000 would be a great camera, but it doesn't quite fit in the pocket (but is much smaller than the average DSLR, but it's probably no bigger than your GX7, and if it is, not by much). Plus the a6000 is a 24MP so you could pull off larger prints much easier. But in short, 16MP shouild be fine for the size prints you are talking.
I do my own printing. Maybe one day I will have a shop do some prints for me. 16 is pushing a 13 by 19 print for excellent quality. By that I mean something you would walk up to real close and buy if you liked the picture.

From ten feet away I would be hard pressed to guess the difference between a 16 and 20 mp print at 13 by 19. But I invested in my Pentax camera and new printer last year because i want my large prints to be spectacular. I would like to get a camera with at least 20mp. Its a personal preference but its one I have invested in.

And I can't stand the thought of giving away for free a nice little 12MP camera, only to turn around and spend 600.00 to 1200.00 on a 16MP camera :)
 
I'm hoping that someone could help me with my dilemma. I'm looking for a high quality camera that fits my pocket. I've been shooting with Canon G7X for the past year and a half and I took it to Burning Man twice and it's basically done - lens is full of dust and flash doesn't pop up properly anymore.

I decided to take my game to the next level. Easy, right? Wrong. After carefully researching cameras for hours and hours, I decided to get Panasonic LX100. I took some test shots and I felt something was off. The pictures didn't look great. So, I decided to take the same shot with identical settings in a dim light with Canon G7X and Panasonic LX100. Comparison confirmed my suspicion. The quality of LX100 was far inferior to G7X - detail was missing and noise was completely unacceptable. This compared to G7X with sand in the lens...! First photo taken with that camera was a photo of me wearing a shirt with stripes and the moire effect was horrible. I wanted to love this camera but the photos are just disappointing.

I thought no problem, I'll just go for mirrorless but no matter where I look, all mirrorless cameras with a small zoom lens are far worse compared to Canon G7X according to reviews. Sure you can get better quality by attaching a massive lens to the camera but makes the camera too big. When size is not an issue, I just take my Nikon DSLR and Sigma 30mm f1.4 with me.

I feel like I'm stuck. I want a camera that has at least some zoom that would fit my pocket - and be better than Canon G7X. I find it frustrating that it seems like the mirrorless world has no decent compact zoom lens/body combo that comes even close to Canon G7X/Sony RX100 zooms.

Is my only option to go mirrorless and do crops to simulate zoom? For the record, I rarely print my photos. My photo folder has 110,000+ photos, printing them would be quite the challenge LOL. As long as the end result looks beautiful on my screen I'm happy.

Thank you in advance for any ideas!
I think that you are looking for something that doesn't exist, yet. I had the same dilemma, I wanted dslr quality photos but I wanted something I could have on me. I never want to take my D7200 anywhere because its so large. I looked at the RX100 III, the LX100, X100T, etc. Nothing fit what I was looking for so I had to make some sacrifices. After months of searching, I read about the Ricoh GR II. Somehow I had never heard about this camera. It doesn't make a lot of the lists for compact cameras because it doesn't have a zoom and that turns a lot of people off, originally, myself included.

I bought it and I love it. I can now take dslr quality photos with a camera that I keep in my pocket. I wish it had a zoom, but you just can't have everything. I am now looking at picking up a used RX1 so i can add a full frame camera that while not pocketable, would be a lot more convenient then a typical full-frame camera.

I guess I am just saying you can't have it all, so you need to decide what is most important to you.
You and the OP are talking about the exact same thing I want! I too have looked at the Ricoh but ruled it out due to the antiquated 16 MP count. The DP2 Merrill ticks the boxes for being dust proof and water resistant; but hand holding it is a pain with no stabilization ( lsame for the Ricoh ) and low light over 400 ISO the Merrill is pretty much useless.

How are the Ricoh prints in 13 by 19?
Yeah it's really tough to get by with just 16 MP. If I had the money I'd by the RX1R II so I can finally get enough of them.
If you're target output platform is for screen or web, 16MP should be fine. It's when you're doing enlargements is where extra MP is going to really show. 16MP is still a respectable resolution. Part of me says that camera companies use MP count as a marketing thing, to make people think they "have" to get a 24 or 36MP camera. I just picked up a Olympus O-EM10 Mark II which has a M4/3 16MP sensor and it does the job I want to it. But that one doesn't fit in your pocket. Point being ,don't rule something out just because it's only 16MP or 20MP. There's more to it than just MP count.
Its print size I want. I don't print out a ton of pictures at 13 by 19, but when I do, I want them to look outstanding.. The new Oly I think will have 20 MP and its on my short list; not sure how small it is though.
If it's the Olympus O-EM10 Mark II, it's only 16MP.. But I think you can still do 13x19 with 16MP. That may be the limit, but I think it's still reasonable. Now, it also will depend on what technology is being used to do the prints and how it's being enlarged.

Are you doing these prints yourself or are you sending them off to a lab to be enlarged and printed? From the quick Google search I did, you should be fine with a 16MP image for 13x19" or somewhere around there. There are ways to get it larger without deforming the images, though, and many print labs will know how to do this I think.

For pocketable cameras, you are exchanging convenience for quality in many cases. Most pocket sized cameras lack high ISO image quality (they tend to suffer more than their larger siblings--the ones with the APS-C sensors and FF sensors). So is it a must that it be pocket sized and fit in your pocket? Something like the a6000 would be a great camera, but it doesn't quite fit in the pocket (but is much smaller than the average DSLR, but it's probably no bigger than your GX7, and if it is, not by much). Plus the a6000 is a 24MP so you could pull off larger prints much easier. But in short, 16MP shouild be fine for the size prints you are talking.
I do my own printing. Maybe one day I will have a shop do some prints for me. 16 is pushing a 13 by 19 print for excellent quality. By that I mean something you would walk up to real close and buy if you liked the picture.

From ten feet away I would be hard pressed to guess the difference between a 16 and 20 mp print at 13 by 19. But I invested in my Pentax camera and new printer last year because i want my large prints to be spectacular. I would like to get a camera with at least 20mp. Its a personal preference but its one I have invested in.

And I can't stand the thought of giving away for free a nice little 12MP camera, only to turn around and spend 600.00 to 1200.00 on a 16MP camera :)
Well then I think the RX100 IV may be your best bet for a pocketable camera. But keep in mind it only uses a 1" sensor, so low light performance is questionable in some instances. I guess part of me says that if you're making money off of prints, even $10 a print, then why would you want to mess around with a pocket sized camera?

Yes, there are pocket sized cameras with 20MP, but it's going to cost a bit more to get the quality I think you're looking for. You could also go with the Sony a-series I mentioned, but I think that's going to be about as good as your going to be able to get in my opinion, as far as mirrorless are concerned. But again, those are not "pocketable" so there is going to be some trade-off either way.
 
I'm hoping that someone could help me with my dilemma. I'm looking for a high quality camera that fits my pocket. I've been shooting with Canon G7X for the past year and a half and I took it to Burning Man twice and it's basically done - lens is full of dust and flash doesn't pop up properly anymore.

I decided to take my game to the next level. Easy, right? Wrong. After carefully researching cameras for hours and hours, I decided to get Panasonic LX100. I took some test shots and I felt something was off. The pictures didn't look great. So, I decided to take the same shot with identical settings in a dim light with Canon G7X and Panasonic LX100. Comparison confirmed my suspicion. The quality of LX100 was far inferior to G7X - detail was missing and noise was completely unacceptable. This compared to G7X with sand in the lens...! First photo taken with that camera was a photo of me wearing a shirt with stripes and the moire effect was horrible. I wanted to love this camera but the photos are just disappointing.

I thought no problem, I'll just go for mirrorless but no matter where I look, all mirrorless cameras with a small zoom lens are far worse compared to Canon G7X according to reviews. Sure you can get better quality by attaching a massive lens to the camera but makes the camera too big. When size is not an issue, I just take my Nikon DSLR and Sigma 30mm f1.4 with me.

I feel like I'm stuck. I want a camera that has at least some zoom that would fit my pocket - and be better than Canon G7X. I find it frustrating that it seems like the mirrorless world has no decent compact zoom lens/body combo that comes even close to Canon G7X/Sony RX100 zooms.

Is my only option to go mirrorless and do crops to simulate zoom? For the record, I rarely print my photos. My photo folder has 110,000+ photos, printing them would be quite the challenge LOL. As long as the end result looks beautiful on my screen I'm happy.

Thank you in advance for any ideas!
I think that you are looking for something that doesn't exist, yet. I had the same dilemma, I wanted dslr quality photos but I wanted something I could have on me. I never want to take my D7200 anywhere because its so large. I looked at the RX100 III, the LX100, X100T, etc. Nothing fit what I was looking for so I had to make some sacrifices. After months of searching, I read about the Ricoh GR II. Somehow I had never heard about this camera. It doesn't make a lot of the lists for compact cameras because it doesn't have a zoom and that turns a lot of people off, originally, myself included.

I bought it and I love it. I can now take dslr quality photos with a camera that I keep in my pocket. I wish it had a zoom, but you just can't have everything. I am now looking at picking up a used RX1 so i can add a full frame camera that while not pocketable, would be a lot more convenient then a typical full-frame camera.

I guess I am just saying you can't have it all, so you need to decide what is most important to you.
You and the OP are talking about the exact same thing I want! I too have looked at the Ricoh but ruled it out due to the antiquated 16 MP count. The DP2 Merrill ticks the boxes for being dust proof and water resistant; but hand holding it is a pain with no stabilization ( lsame for the Ricoh ) and low light over 400 ISO the Merrill is pretty much useless.

How are the Ricoh prints in 13 by 19?
Yeah it's really tough to get by with just 16 MP. If I had the money I'd by the RX1R II so I can finally get enough of them.
If you're target output platform is for screen or web, 16MP should be fine. It's when you're doing enlargements is where extra MP is going to really show. 16MP is still a respectable resolution. Part of me says that camera companies use MP count as a marketing thing, to make people think they "have" to get a 24 or 36MP camera. I just picked up a Olympus O-EM10 Mark II which has a M4/3 16MP sensor and it does the job I want to it. But that one doesn't fit in your pocket. Point being ,don't rule something out just because it's only 16MP or 20MP. There's more to it than just MP count.
Its print size I want. I don't print out a ton of pictures at 13 by 19, but when I do, I want them to look outstanding.. The new Oly I think will have 20 MP and its on my short list; not sure how small it is though.
If it's the Olympus O-EM10 Mark II, it's only 16MP.. But I think you can still do 13x19 with 16MP. That may be the limit, but I think it's still reasonable. Now, it also will depend on what technology is being used to do the prints and how it's being enlarged.

Are you doing these prints yourself or are you sending them off to a lab to be enlarged and printed? From the quick Google search I did, you should be fine with a 16MP image for 13x19" or somewhere around there. There are ways to get it larger without deforming the images, though, and many print labs will know how to do this I think.

For pocketable cameras, you are exchanging convenience for quality in many cases. Most pocket sized cameras lack high ISO image quality (they tend to suffer more than their larger siblings--the ones with the APS-C sensors and FF sensors). So is it a must that it be pocket sized and fit in your pocket? Something like the a6000 would be a great camera, but it doesn't quite fit in the pocket (but is much smaller than the average DSLR, but it's probably no bigger than your GX7, and if it is, not by much). Plus the a6000 is a 24MP so you could pull off larger prints much easier. But in short, 16MP shouild be fine for the size prints you are talking.
I do my own printing. Maybe one day I will have a shop do some prints for me. 16 is pushing a 13 by 19 print for excellent quality. By that I mean something you would walk up to real close and buy if you liked the picture.

From ten feet away I would be hard pressed to guess the difference between a 16 and 20 mp print at 13 by 19. But I invested in my Pentax camera and new printer last year because i want my large prints to be spectacular. I would like to get a camera with at least 20mp. Its a personal preference but its one I have invested in.

And I can't stand the thought of giving away for free a nice little 12MP camera, only to turn around and spend 600.00 to 1200.00 on a 16MP camera :)
Well then I think the RX100 IV may be your best bet for a pocketable camera. But keep in mind it only uses a 1" sensor, so low light performance is questionable in some instances. I guess part of me says that if you're making money off of prints, even $10 a print, then why would you want to mess around with a pocket sized camera?

Yes, there are pocket sized cameras with 20MP, but it's going to cost a bit more to get the quality I think you're looking for. You could also go with the Sony a-series I mentioned, but I think that's going to be about as good as your going to be able to get in my opinion, as far as mirrorless are concerned. But again, those are not "pocketable" so there is going to be some trade-off either way.
I am not selling prints; my reference is the quality I want out of my large prints. Would you or I be willing to pay for it type of quality. Low light performance is not a deal breaker. Almost all my shooting is done during the day. Even on a cloudy day, ISO 400 is usually good enough.

This is why the Merrill may actually work for me. I like B&W too which also helps, a little noise is good for some of my pictures. Thanks for the input on the RX100.
 
I'm hoping that someone could help me with my dilemma. I'm looking for a high quality camera that fits my pocket. I've been shooting with Canon G7X for the past year and a half and I took it to Burning Man twice and it's basically done - lens is full of dust and flash doesn't pop up properly anymore.

I decided to take my game to the next level. Easy, right? Wrong. After carefully researching cameras for hours and hours, I decided to get Panasonic LX100. I took some test shots and I felt something was off. The pictures didn't look great. So, I decided to take the same shot with identical settings in a dim light with Canon G7X and Panasonic LX100. Comparison confirmed my suspicion. The quality of LX100 was far inferior to G7X - detail was missing and noise was completely unacceptable. This compared to G7X with sand in the lens...! First photo taken with that camera was a photo of me wearing a shirt with stripes and the moire effect was horrible. I wanted to love this camera but the photos are just disappointing.

I thought no problem, I'll just go for mirrorless but no matter where I look, all mirrorless cameras with a small zoom lens are far worse compared to Canon G7X according to reviews. Sure you can get better quality by attaching a massive lens to the camera but makes the camera too big. When size is not an issue, I just take my Nikon DSLR and Sigma 30mm f1.4 with me.

I feel like I'm stuck. I want a camera that has at least some zoom that would fit my pocket - and be better than Canon G7X. I find it frustrating that it seems like the mirrorless world has no decent compact zoom lens/body combo that comes even close to Canon G7X/Sony RX100 zooms.

Is my only option to go mirrorless and do crops to simulate zoom? For the record, I rarely print my photos. My photo folder has 110,000+ photos, printing them would be quite the challenge LOL. As long as the end result looks beautiful on my screen I'm happy.

Thank you in advance for any ideas!
I think that you are looking for something that doesn't exist, yet. I had the same dilemma, I wanted dslr quality photos but I wanted something I could have on me. I never want to take my D7200 anywhere because its so large. I looked at the RX100 III, the LX100, X100T, etc. Nothing fit what I was looking for so I had to make some sacrifices. After months of searching, I read about the Ricoh GR II. Somehow I had never heard about this camera. It doesn't make a lot of the lists for compact cameras because it doesn't have a zoom and that turns a lot of people off, originally, myself included.

I bought it and I love it. I can now take dslr quality photos with a camera that I keep in my pocket. I wish it had a zoom, but you just can't have everything. I am now looking at picking up a used RX1 so i can add a full frame camera that while not pocketable, would be a lot more convenient then a typical full-frame camera.

I guess I am just saying you can't have it all, so you need to decide what is most important to you.
You and the OP are talking about the exact same thing I want! I too have looked at the Ricoh but ruled it out due to the antiquated 16 MP count. The DP2 Merrill ticks the boxes for being dust proof and water resistant; but hand holding it is a pain with no stabilization ( lsame for the Ricoh ) and low light over 400 ISO the Merrill is pretty much useless.

How are the Ricoh prints in 13 by 19?
Yeah it's really tough to get by with just 16 MP. If I had the money I'd by the RX1R II so I can finally get enough of them.
If you're target output platform is for screen or web, 16MP should be fine. It's when you're doing enlargements is where extra MP is going to really show. 16MP is still a respectable resolution. Part of me says that camera companies use MP count as a marketing thing, to make people think they "have" to get a 24 or 36MP camera. I just picked up a Olympus O-EM10 Mark II which has a M4/3 16MP sensor and it does the job I want to it. But that one doesn't fit in your pocket. Point being ,don't rule something out just because it's only 16MP or 20MP. There's more to it than just MP count.
Its print size I want. I don't print out a ton of pictures at 13 by 19, but when I do, I want them to look outstanding.. The new Oly I think will have 20 MP and its on my short list; not sure how small it is though.
If it's the Olympus O-EM10 Mark II, it's only 16MP.. But I think you can still do 13x19 with 16MP. That may be the limit, but I think it's still reasonable. Now, it also will depend on what technology is being used to do the prints and how it's being enlarged.

Are you doing these prints yourself or are you sending them off to a lab to be enlarged and printed? From the quick Google search I did, you should be fine with a 16MP image for 13x19" or somewhere around there. There are ways to get it larger without deforming the images, though, and many print labs will know how to do this I think.

For pocketable cameras, you are exchanging convenience for quality in many cases. Most pocket sized cameras lack high ISO image quality (they tend to suffer more than their larger siblings--the ones with the APS-C sensors and FF sensors). So is it a must that it be pocket sized and fit in your pocket? Something like the a6000 would be a great camera, but it doesn't quite fit in the pocket (but is much smaller than the average DSLR, but it's probably no bigger than your GX7, and if it is, not by much). Plus the a6000 is a 24MP so you could pull off larger prints much easier. But in short, 16MP shouild be fine for the size prints you are talking.
I do my own printing. Maybe one day I will have a shop do some prints for me. 16 is pushing a 13 by 19 print for excellent quality. By that I mean something you would walk up to real close and buy if you liked the picture.

From ten feet away I would be hard pressed to guess the difference between a 16 and 20 mp print at 13 by 19. But I invested in my Pentax camera and new printer last year because i want my large prints to be spectacular. I would like to get a camera with at least 20mp. Its a personal preference but its one I have invested in.

And I can't stand the thought of giving away for free a nice little 12MP camera, only to turn around and spend 600.00 to 1200.00 on a 16MP camera :)
Well then I think the RX100 IV may be your best bet for a pocketable camera. But keep in mind it only uses a 1" sensor, so low light performance is questionable in some instances. I guess part of me says that if you're making money off of prints, even $10 a print, then why would you want to mess around with a pocket sized camera?

Yes, there are pocket sized cameras with 20MP, but it's going to cost a bit more to get the quality I think you're looking for. You could also go with the Sony a-series I mentioned, but I think that's going to be about as good as your going to be able to get in my opinion, as far as mirrorless are concerned. But again, those are not "pocketable" so there is going to be some trade-off either way.
I am not selling prints; my reference is the quality I want out of my large prints. Would you or I be willing to pay for it type of quality. Low light performance is not a deal breaker. Almost all my shooting is done during the day. Even on a cloudy day, ISO 400 is usually good enough.

This is why the Merrill may actually work for me. I like B&W too which also helps, a little noise is good for some of my pictures. Thanks for the input on the RX100.
As long as you're shooting on bright(er) days and keeping the ISO low (between 100-400) then you should be fine. IT's when you push it at or above ISO 800 that you start getting noticeable noise, as least that's what I saw when I tried it.

Keep in mind that apparently sony just announced the new Mark V version of that camera which I'm sure will have many improvements (hopefully). But the IV and III is also still a good camera, and who knows, maybe the introduction of the Mark V may cause prices to fall.
 
This has been a fun thread, I'm glad I joined this board.

I'm heading to Japan tomorrow and I'm really excited about my new gear. I've used Canon EOS M10 for few days and I don't quite understand the smack talk about mirrorless Canon cameras - so far it's worked great and the photo quality is good with 22m F/2 lens. I got shorts with large pockets and it easily fits in the pocket.

As a second camera I got Olympus Stylus 1 which I got today. I'm positively shocked about the bokeh I got with such a relatively small sensor. I took photos of objects that were few feet away with f/2.8 and the background in far distance was beautifully blurred. Much better than I expected but that's the beauty of constant aperture,
I guess. It's quite the achievement to have 28-300mm zoom with constant f/2.8 aperture that fits your pocket.

Both cameras fit my pockets (the original goal) and it's going to be fun to walk around for 10 days without a camera hanging from my neck - which I absolutely hate. It makes my neck hurt plus it looks lame.

I'll keep you posted about what I like and dislike about this combo. Thanks for all the ideas so far, it's always good to hear someone's else's opinion and reasoning.
 
This has been a fun thread, I'm glad I joined this board.

I'm heading to Japan tomorrow and I'm really excited about my new gear. I've used Canon EOS M10 for few days and I don't quite understand the smack talk about mirrorless Canon cameras - so far it's worked great and the photo quality is good with 22m F/2 lens. I got shorts with large pockets and it easily fits in the pocket.

As a second camera I got Olympus Stylus 1 which I got today. I'm positively shocked about the bokeh I got with such a relatively small sensor. I took photos of objects that were few feet away with f/2.8 and the background in far distance was beautifully blurred. Much better than I expected but that's the beauty of constant aperture,
I guess. It's quite the achievement to have 28-300mm zoom with constant f/2.8 aperture that fits your pocket.

Both cameras fit my pockets (the original goal) and it's going to be fun to walk around for 10 days without a camera hanging from my neck - which I absolutely hate. It makes my neck hurt plus it looks lame.

I'll keep you posted about what I like and dislike about this combo. Thanks for all the ideas so far, it's always good to hear someone's else's opinion and reasoning.
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