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E-M1 vs. A7II Thoughts

Started Jul 28, 2016 | Discussions thread
deednets Forum Pro • Posts: 13,889
Re: DR & HDR

Jacques Cornell wrote:

olyflyer wrote:

Jacques Cornell wrote:

The larger sensor's DR advantage applies only with moving subjects.

That's a bit of a simplification.... a joke which shows that you don't know what you are talking about. DR advantages are ALWAYS advantages. Period.

That's a bit of a simplification... a joke which shows that you don't know what you are talking about. I get more DR from a 5-frame bracket with MFT than you get from a single capture with a 35mm sensor. Results are results. The infinitesimally small amount of additional work I have to do to get these results 1) is no burden at all, and 2) saves me thousands of dollars and several pounds of weight by letting me use a smaller, cheaper kit.

If you need to take 5 images and create pseudo DR through PP (or in camera) just to get similar DR to a large sensor camera then apart from wasting time you waste memory and need to have a pretty complex work flow and special software.

Complex, ha! Select, hit control-H, wait 60 seconds, done. If that's too much work for you, I suggest you just shoot JPEGs and do no post. "Special" software? Really? You consider Lightroom "special"? It's what 90% of pros and enthusiasts use.

If you take those images hand held then you will definitely not get the same quality as you would from a single image, no matter what kind of IBIS you are using.

Wrong. There is no loss of sharpness or detail from merging an exposure bracket.

Now, imagine having to do that for a few hundred images and you should see the advantages of having a camera with larger sensor and more DR. You can never really get the same kind of image by stacking images compared to a single image. HDR is not the same as sensor DR.

Wrong again. See above.

You know, I might have been willing to concede a minor point, but your attitude is so rude and hostile that I won't give you the satisfaction.

Your statement re "only an advantage for moving subjects" is a provocative one as the world is mainly a moving one, leaves in the wind, people maybe?

or in short: with HDR bracketing you could "only" shoot a locker room at the Olympics in Rio but hardly anything else. If dynamic range is an issue. And it was on this occasion.

I noticed your "only" also and thought that it belittled the larger range of FF. Your argument can be applied to high res as well, I guess? Same multi-frame issue?

I did a test re hdr vs raw on the RX1r, jpg, but multi-frame versus 12-bit raw. In general the raws looked more confident as there often were little issues, minor ghosting or in fact moving parts, a branch looking silly etc. The raws just more solid.

And one more thing: 90% of pros use Lightroom? What about the fashion industry? I would agree tha Lightroom is mainstream, but not with your 90% ... but maybe you are correct, where did you get that information from?

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