The ergonomics on the 80D are great, I find the directional pad very easy to use and also more precise than the 7d's joystick, depends on personal taste I suppose. The tilting touch screen is a winner, once you have used it you can't go without. I promise you the AF on the 80D is no slouch either, it's bang on even in low light situations. Not so sure about the silent shutter mode, I don't find the normal modes to be that loud myself but you are right +1fps can be an advantage in some situations.
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For animal photographs (mammals, reptiles), which would you choose? 7DII or 80D?
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Definitely wouldn't call either "silent" but I do find the 80D's shutter to be better damped than my old 70D. Live view is much quieter. I find the "silent" mode to be very useful in low light situations with slow shutter speeds, I seem to be able to get sharper shots since there's less vibration from the mirror mechanism.
Live view silent mode related to mirror lockup?
Tazz93
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Also, referencing the shutter noise, the 7D2 and 80D have very quiet shutters in normal operation. I think they may even come close to halving the gap to the 5D3's quiet mode.
Regarding ergos, it all depends on you and what you shoot most. If you are a quick learner who has no issues remembering the difference between the two cameras there is no advantage. If you occassion have issue remembering small details, especially in a rush, ergos might have an impact.
KariP
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If reptiles means also snakes i really would like 80D better - optical viewfinder feels unpleasant with vipers...
I was referring to the situation that was posed by the original poster of this thread. He was asking about a crop sensor camera for wildlife. A situation where you are focal length limited. If my eagle fishing shot takes only 5 Mpix out of my 20 7D II pixels, I'll be cropping. If I had a 5DS with the same lens at the same focal length. It still would take up 5 Mpix and I would still have to crop to 5 Mpix (out of 50 instead of out of 20) and the noise would be the same (if the electronic read noise is the same). This is not the situation that you are talking about. But it is the situation that was posed by the OP.
In the quote above you were comparing 50 MP full frame with 20 MP full frame.
50 MP full frame vs 20 aps-c when are focal length limited is a different situation and I acknowledged that in my first post to this thread:
"But OP talked about a situation where you are reach limited and you have to crop full frame image to match the FOV on aps-c camera. In that case all the advantages of larger sensor are lost."
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In the above quote 50MP full frame was being compared to 20MP full frame.
You are completely right though that when you are focal length limited and have to crop there's no advantage to full frame.
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aftab
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I have both 5DIII and 5DsR (not 5Ds). I made several comparisons. Up to ISO3200 5DsR easily beats 5DIII when 5DsR image size is reduced to 5DIII size and noise reduction performed. Above that the difference becomes less discernible, although up to ISO6400 5DsR maintains slight noise advantage.
If OP crops 5DsR image to 80D size he will get about 31MP. I don't know if after noise reduction that will give OP better image or not, I didn't make the comparison. This is something I have been thinking of doing, maybe soon.
PS, sorry, didn't read all the comments. So, apologies if my comment is redundant.
If OP crops 5DsR image to 80D size he will get about 31MP. I don't know if after noise reduction that will give OP better image or not, I didn't make the comparison. This is something I have been thinking of doing, maybe soon.
PS, sorry, didn't read all the comments. So, apologies if my comment is redundant.
If you crop 5DsR image to APS-C you get about 20MP not 31MP. You have more pixels vertical and horizontal so you have to divide both by 1.6. If you only divide one you will have to much pixels left.
Resolution is 8688 x 5792 = 50.3 MP.
Wrong calculation: 8688/1.6 x 5792 = 5430 x 5792 = 31.4MP
Correct calculation: 8688/1.6 x 5792/1.6 = 5430 x 3620 = 19.6 MP
That is almost 5MP less then the 80D and about the same as the 7D2.
aftab
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Good luck shooting wildlife at ISO 100!I definitely saw the difference when I went from 70D to 80D, it was my main purchase choice. True the benefit is at low ISO. But I often use these settings and the pictures look much cleaner especially when lifting shadows.
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