MY D500 Auto Fine Tune Work Flow

All,

If you are struggling with the New Function in the D5/D500 Auto Fine Tune Workflow like I did, here is my Work Flow:

My D500 Auto Fine Tune workflow :

12) Repeat 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12 several times to insure consistency

13) Take the high and the low values out, average the rest = use this value as the Final AF Fine Tune Saved Value (OPTIONAL STEP ONLY)
I see that you already had the correction for leaving in on. Do you realize that your steps, when you add 12 and 13, basically mimic the Dot Tune method? As it happened, I did the same as I wanted to verify. One nice thing is that much like Dot Tune, if you do step 12, you are factoring in the inherent variability of AF.
I was not aware that Dot Tune did that. I have always learned that there are always outlier in most sampling systems, to me that is noise and needs to be cleaned or filtered, I think I finally applied something from my statistics class...LOL
One thing that I found was that I needed to be quite cautious to not move the camera as I was doing the "double-press" on the two buttons. Once I got my fingers properly set, it worked much easier, and more consistent.
I observed that as well, the first few lenses I Auto tuned, the variability was large and as I tuned more (I have 7 FF lenses) the tighter my variation become. My last batch (lens : 70-200 VRII) was +/- 1/2!!!!!
Testing with Dot Tune and my Focus Tune target I was quite happy how well it worked. Did my 300 f4 PF and my 600mm f4 with all 3 TC's. Quite nice and quick to boot.
It would probably be best if there is a way to Push the two buttons wirelessly - Via SnapBridge to avoid any mechanical vibration, I bet you I can write that code if Nikon gives me the source code or a developer's kit.......I will not hold my breath on that LOL.
Vic, you're right, it is absolutely statistics. There is an inherent normal variation in the Auto focus system, the key is to establish the bell curve, throw out the outliers and set it to the mean of the curve.

I think that is what frustrates a lot of people they see the normal variation as random failure.

Bob W.
Bob, I am glad you concur... Are you doing OK without that appendix? Hope so...

Here are some more testing results from yesterday with the D500:



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3086233652974027a6f5238e6d3f831b.jpg




dc3dec21a385480da3cbc1d215ca4703.jpg




c5cfcc5e890e4b5992468fe664b09f1b.jpg




5473f81d50dc43be8647ddb325bd662c.jpg




3aad22ed5b244c46a2cf2b496fe81299.jpg




7c88422f22174c44b9a9ea15b1cc89cc.jpg


These are not the full set on one dive - my Ch slows down after 8-9 shots , I think due to slow SD card, I need to get the XQD card . No fish for the Osprey....LOL

Here is another bird: a big one.



713b593e5a684e57b79a166d4b5b6abb.jpg




902c8ca396bc46839fd496d0256bc0c2.jpg


All taken at Bolsa Chica Wetlands...
 
All,

If you are struggling with the New Function in the D5/D500 Auto Fine Tune Workflow like I did, here is my Work Flow:

My D500 Auto Fine Tune workflow :

12) Repeat 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12 several times to insure consistency

13) Take the high and the low values out, average the rest = use this value as the Final AF Fine Tune Saved Value (OPTIONAL STEP ONLY)
I see that you already had the correction for leaving in on. Do you realize that your steps, when you add 12 and 13, basically mimic the Dot Tune method? As it happened, I did the same as I wanted to verify. One nice thing is that much like Dot Tune, if you do step 12, you are factoring in the inherent variability of AF.
I was not aware that Dot Tune did that. I have always learned that there are always outlier in most sampling systems, to me that is noise and needs to be cleaned or filtered, I think I finally applied something from my statistics class...LOL
One thing that I found was that I needed to be quite cautious to not move the camera as I was doing the "double-press" on the two buttons. Once I got my fingers properly set, it worked much easier, and more consistent.
I observed that as well, the first few lenses I Auto tuned, the variability was large and as I tuned more (I have 7 FF lenses) the tighter my variation become. My last batch (lens : 70-200 VRII) was +/- 1/2!!!!!
Testing with Dot Tune and my Focus Tune target I was quite happy how well it worked. Did my 300 f4 PF and my 600mm f4 with all 3 TC's. Quite nice and quick to boot.
It would probably be best if there is a way to Push the two buttons wirelessly - Via SnapBridge to avoid any mechanical vibration, I bet you I can write that code if Nikon gives me the source code or a developer's kit.......I will not hold my breath on that LOL.
 
"no fish". If not I was going to suggest your D500 be sent back since it must have missed the critical "fish pick up" :-D

For people who don't often shoot Osprey, let me just add that when these birds stoop, going into a dive for fish, it is FAST, I mean REALLY fast. You did a grand job following this bird to the water. In the "old days", like 3 weeks ago, getting the full dive in focus would have been, well, far more difficult.

AF settings please?
 
All,

If you are struggling with the New Function in the D5/D500 Auto Fine Tune Workflow like I did, here is my Work Flow:

My D500 Auto Fine Tune workflow :

12) Repeat 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12 several times to insure consistency

13) Take the high and the low values out, average the rest = use this value as the Final AF Fine Tune Saved Value (OPTIONAL STEP ONLY)
I see that you already had the correction for leaving in on. Do you realize that your steps, when you add 12 and 13, basically mimic the Dot Tune method? As it happened, I did the same as I wanted to verify. One nice thing is that much like Dot Tune, if you do step 12, you are factoring in the inherent variability of AF.
I was not aware that Dot Tune did that. I have always learned that there are always outlier in most sampling systems, to me that is noise and needs to be cleaned or filtered, I think I finally applied something from my statistics class...LOL
One thing that I found was that I needed to be quite cautious to not move the camera as I was doing the "double-press" on the two buttons. Once I got my fingers properly set, it worked much easier, and more consistent.
I observed that as well, the first few lenses I Auto tuned, the variability was large and as I tuned more (I have 7 FF lenses) the tighter my variation become. My last batch (lens : 70-200 VRII) was +/- 1/2!!!!!
Testing with Dot Tune and my Focus Tune target I was quite happy how well it worked. Did my 300 f4 PF and my 600mm f4 with all 3 TC's. Quite nice and quick to boot.
It would probably be best if there is a way to Push the two buttons wirelessly - Via SnapBridge to avoid any mechanical vibration, I bet you I can write that code if Nikon gives me the source code or a developer's kit.......I will not hold my breath on that LOL.
 
"no fish". If not I was going to suggest your D500 be sent back since it must have missed the critical "fish pick up" :-D

For people who don't often shoot Osprey, let me just add that when these birds stoop, going into a dive for fish, it is FAST, I mean REALLY fast. You did a grand job following this bird to the water. In the "old days", like 3 weeks ago, getting the full dive in focus would have been, well, far more difficult.

AF settings please?
 
All,

If you are struggling with the New Function in the D5/D500 Auto Fine Tune Workflow like I did, here is my Work Flow:

My D500 Auto Fine Tune workflow :

12) Repeat 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12 several times to insure consistency

13) Take the high and the low values out, average the rest = use this value as the Final AF Fine Tune Saved Value (OPTIONAL STEP ONLY)
I see that you already had the correction for leaving in on. Do you realize that your steps, when you add 12 and 13, basically mimic the Dot Tune method? As it happened, I did the same as I wanted to verify. One nice thing is that much like Dot Tune, if you do step 12, you are factoring in the inherent variability of AF.
I was not aware that Dot Tune did that. I have always learned that there are always outlier in most sampling systems, to me that is noise and needs to be cleaned or filtered, I think I finally applied something from my statistics class...LOL
One thing that I found was that I needed to be quite cautious to not move the camera as I was doing the "double-press" on the two buttons. Once I got my fingers properly set, it worked much easier, and more consistent.
I observed that as well, the first few lenses I Auto tuned, the variability was large and as I tuned more (I have 7 FF lenses) the tighter my variation become. My last batch (lens : 70-200 VRII) was +/- 1/2!!!!!
Testing with Dot Tune and my Focus Tune target I was quite happy how well it worked. Did my 300 f4 PF and my 600mm f4 with all 3 TC's. Quite nice and quick to boot.
It would probably be best if there is a way to Push the two buttons wirelessly - Via SnapBridge to avoid any mechanical vibration, I bet you I can write that code if Nikon gives me the source code or a developer's kit.......I will not hold my breath on that LOL.
 
All,

If you are struggling with the New Function in the D5/D500 Auto Fine Tune Workflow like I did, here is my Work Flow:

My D500 Auto Fine Tune workflow :

12) Repeat 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12 several times to insure consistency

13) Take the high and the low values out, average the rest = use this value as the Final AF Fine Tune Saved Value (OPTIONAL STEP ONLY)
I see that you already had the correction for leaving in on. Do you realize that your steps, when you add 12 and 13, basically mimic the Dot Tune method? As it happened, I did the same as I wanted to verify. One nice thing is that much like Dot Tune, if you do step 12, you are factoring in the inherent variability of AF.
I was not aware that Dot Tune did that. I have always learned that there are always outlier in most sampling systems, to me that is noise and needs to be cleaned or filtered, I think I finally applied something from my statistics class...LOL
One thing that I found was that I needed to be quite cautious to not move the camera as I was doing the "double-press" on the two buttons. Once I got my fingers properly set, it worked much easier, and more consistent.
I observed that as well, the first few lenses I Auto tuned, the variability was large and as I tuned more (I have 7 FF lenses) the tighter my variation become. My last batch (lens : 70-200 VRII) was +/- 1/2!!!!!
Testing with Dot Tune and my Focus Tune target I was quite happy how well it worked. Did my 300 f4 PF and my 600mm f4 with all 3 TC's. Quite nice and quick to boot.
It would probably be best if there is a way to Push the two buttons wirelessly - Via SnapBridge to avoid any mechanical vibration, I bet you I can write that code if Nikon gives me the source code or a developer's kit.......I will not hold my breath on that LOL.
 
All,

If you are struggling with the New Function in the D5/D500 Auto Fine Tune Workflow like I did, here is my Work Flow:

My D500 Auto Fine Tune workflow :

12) Repeat 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12 several times to insure consistency

13) Take the high and the low values out, average the rest = use this value as the Final AF Fine Tune Saved Value (OPTIONAL STEP ONLY)
I see that you already had the correction for leaving in on. Do you realize that your steps, when you add 12 and 13, basically mimic the Dot Tune method? As it happened, I did the same as I wanted to verify. One nice thing is that much like Dot Tune, if you do step 12, you are factoring in the inherent variability of AF.
I was not aware that Dot Tune did that. I have always learned that there are always outlier in most sampling systems, to me that is noise and needs to be cleaned or filtered, I think I finally applied something from my statistics class...LOL
One thing that I found was that I needed to be quite cautious to not move the camera as I was doing the "double-press" on the two buttons. Once I got my fingers properly set, it worked much easier, and more consistent.
I observed that as well, the first few lenses I Auto tuned, the variability was large and as I tuned more (I have 7 FF lenses) the tighter my variation become. My last batch (lens : 70-200 VRII) was +/- 1/2!!!!!
Testing with Dot Tune and my Focus Tune target I was quite happy how well it worked. Did my 300 f4 PF and my 600mm f4 with all 3 TC's. Quite nice and quick to boot.
It would probably be best if there is a way to Push the two buttons wirelessly - Via SnapBridge to avoid any mechanical vibration, I bet you I can write that code if Nikon gives me the source code or a developer's kit.......I will not hold my breath on that LOL.
Vic, you're right, it is absolutely statistics. There is an inherent normal variation in the Auto focus system, the key is to establish the bell curve, throw out the outliers and set it to the mean of the curve.

I think that is what frustrates a lot of people they see the normal variation as random failure.

Bob W.
Bob, I am glad you concur... Are you doing OK without that appendix? Hope so...
Doing well, I'll be back out on the trails shooting, end of next week.
Here are some more testing results from yesterday with the D500:

99aeb96930004465a79f91f8e646a296.jpg


3086233652974027a6f5238e6d3f831b.jpg


dc3dec21a385480da3cbc1d215ca4703.jpg


c5cfcc5e890e4b5992468fe664b09f1b.jpg


5473f81d50dc43be8647ddb325bd662c.jpg


3aad22ed5b244c46a2cf2b496fe81299.jpg


7c88422f22174c44b9a9ea15b1cc89cc.jpg


These are not the full set on one dive - my Ch slows down after 8-9 shots , I think due to slow SD card, I need to get the XQD card . No fish for the Osprey....LOL

Here is another bird: a big one.

713b593e5a684e57b79a166d4b5b6abb.jpg


902c8ca396bc46839fd496d0256bc0c2.jpg


All taken at Bolsa Chica Wetlands...
 

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