arbux wrote:
BostonBoy wrote:
That being said: In 2014 it was a stellar camera, but not enough to convince the masses to switch to a new system / mount.
"Masses" were not convinced by Samsung logo, not by the camera itself. It was getting stellar reviews, but it was Samsung. Photo community is a very strange one and Samsung was definitely more succesful among video enthusiasts.
In the meantime they have been overtaken by others (Sony and Fuji comes to mind)
This is a false statement. How exactly these 2 companies have overtaken Samsung?
Fuji released x-pro2 just in recent month, not only after Samsung made its decision, but also x-pro2 is hardly batter camera. If anything, it's clearly worse - smaller EVF, no 4k, less focusing points with not confirmed focusing advantage, no touch screen or even articulated screen, with 2.8 zooms that are both worse (16-55 is costant 2.8 and has no OIS, while 50-140 is shorter and there are numerous complaints of it being noisy)... The only fuji advantage is the logo.
With Sony, it depends - A7R2 is most likely better camera (except for frame rate and operational speed) but is also twice as expensive as nx1 was at its introduction. A6300 was again introduced good few months after samsung decided to exit camera business and again it's advantage ofer NX1 is disputable, not to mentiomn lack of APS-C lenses and unavailability of FF lenses (and their prices).
and I think they stopped competing altogether. Only a matter of time then until already non-stellar sales numbers dropped further. They have given up, sad to say, since I do believe they have the core technology and engineering prowess in house. It's just not part of their strategy any more.
In regards to the AF: Capable, yes, but even with the Pro-Glass I experience the occasional hunting, and the keeper rate with fast burst is less then optimal, even with not-so-fast moving subjects. I'd say my new Fuji XPro2 blows it out of the water, and so does a few other mirrorless systems I regularly shoot with.
This statement is false again. Xpro-2 doesn't "blow out of water" anything, it's just catching up with A6000 and m43 (X-T1 flagship was very bad and full of restrictions in continous AF what is confirmed by numerous tests and by Tony Horthrup on youtube - after FW 4.0), not to mention that by saying "few other mirrorless systems", when the only other remaining is m43, nikon 1 and canon M, you discredit yourself completely, as you imply Samsung was the worst.
I'm not even talking about the latest DSLR Canikon offerings here, such as D1X II or D5/D500.
Good, because you don't know what you're talking about anyway and in this case could only see pictures of those cameras.
Plus, the sensor is definitely noisier in low light than the latest offerings out there (Fuji XPro2 Night Shoot @ ISO 6400 with the wonderful ACross Film Simulation attached, FYI).
Fuji X with their traditionally inflated ISO rating that doesn't stand validation in any professional review. Plus black and white conversion always hides noise.
Just to be clear, I'm not a brand-fanboy,
Yes you're.
I'm a results-fanboy, and I use whatever the best offering for me is. The Samsung NX1 stays in the Arsenal for now,
If you have it.
as it is still very good for the next 1-2 years to come. And who knows? Maybe Samsung or a successor for their Imaging Business might have gotten their act together by then. There is always hope. In the meantime, the camera won't stop working, so I will continue to use it.
Why would you when fuji x-pro2 "blows it out of water"? You come on this forum, write some strange and funny statements and then contradict yourself in every other sentence.
Enjoy,
- R
Lisa Ann II, Newburyport, MA
Wow. Angry much?
Your answer reminds me again why I typically don't engage in these forums, since folks take things way to personal. As I said, the NX1 is a very capable system, and it's sad that Samsung does not keep pushing the limits further. The 28MPixel APS-C sensor is good, detailed. In particular I like the 2 Pro Lenses, but also the 85mm F1.4 which I own as well. Other companies do push the envelope further, simple as that. I don't have personal experience with the Canon D1X MK II, but I do already with the Nikon D5. I expect the AF performance of these two models to be similar. The D5 in a different league in regards to AF, maybe not compared to base ISO dynamic range performance actually if you trust the initial internet reports. So much so that I'm considering trading some bodies and get on a wait list for a D5.
And yes, after shooting > 1500 pics with the Fuji XPro2 in the last few weeks I have to say the latest Fuji offering has a better AF as well (compared to my NX1), at least when it comes to my personal shooting style. I let others shoot the test charts etc. etc. and do the detailed analysis. C-AF is still an issue for me, even with the latest Fuji offering BTW, so it's a nuanced picture.
As to your fanboy comment: Yesterday night I picked up a NX500 which I found on display in a local electronic store, much to my surprise as I thought they were all but gone. Last Samsung model they had on the shelve. That will most likely be my last investment into Samsung Camera, unless we see a strong reversal of strategy and a major commitment going forward. Just because Samsung Exits the market doesn't make the system less capable BTW, although I expect support, firmware updates etc. to seize over time. Hence the alternative body. However, I'm running eyes wide open into it.
Enough said. Good luck to you.
