Flip21 - nx30

Greynerd wrote:

I presume your reply to me was deleting everything I said

I think that cameras will merge but the camera optimised will be optimised for video. Possibly you are predicting the death of cameras optimised for still photography except as an expensive specialised outpost and this may be true. In a way Sony going full frame high margin is a sign of this. Olympus are hanging on as photography vendors though so this is good to see.

Why would the manufacturers waste time bodging still cameras to become video cameras when video cameras already exist and could just have a few features incorporated and bigger sensors to satisfy the small amount of people who want better stills than their smartphone. Samsung abandoning still cameras is probably the start of it.

My advice would be to get your still cameras whilst you can still afford them. They look like they are becoming a luxury item unless you make do with a vidcam.

flip 21 wrote:

Kisaha, you are always trying to make a distinction between camcorders and still cameras and I don't really understand why you insist on it. In the future they will merge beautifully...

As we know, the canon 5D Mark II got its name in history, not because of its still capabilities, but because it offered for the first time in a FF sensor camera, full HD video, right? It was even used in an episode of the Dr House serials, as we know it.

A lot of videographers, changed to the canon 5D II, and gave up on camcorders. The canon 5D had a mic input back then, but no 180º fully articulated LCD. And this was a long time ago...

The problem is that despite all this time, most of the still cameras that record video aren't still optimized to record video (and audio)....

So users such as me, don't really know what to do, because:

1st - even expensive professional video camcorders have small sensors, so the image quality spealcially in low light is much worst. We cannot had DOF with those cameras. For me it is a waste of money... for less money we can buy a Sony A7s, or a Samsung NX1...

2nd - (as I mentioned above) Still cameras aren't still optimized to record video and audio.

Thanks

Sorry Greynerd, I was replying to Kisaha

I really liked your previous reply. I even press on the thumbs up icon next to it

What I mean, with what I said, is that it seems manufactures are playing with consumers. For instances, there have been to new 4k panasonic cameras released, the x1000, and the vx880, but their sensor continue to be very small. The X1000 has a gigantic body, but a tiny sensor... I wonder why is that disparty?

For me this is really strange, because the Canon 5D II (2008) proved that bigger sensor cameras produce better video, so why is it taking so long for video cameras to incorporate big sensors? Or why is it taking so long to produce mirrorless cameras optimized for video? In the end the image quality is the most important feature, in a videocamera, right?

This video is a nice example of what I'm talking about...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCuoJEx3Yoc

In this video, you can see that the better camera, with a bigger sensor, and better image quality, wich is the New Sony RX100, don't have a mic input. So you have a better camera for shooting video, but it lacks features that every cheap video camera has.. and brands are taking years to understand this inconscistency

Are camcorders dead? I guess they are, so lets give consumers alternatives:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqCv6AUIriE

Thanks