rethinking Micro Four Thirds in 2016

Camera Newton wrote:

golfhov wrote:

Camera Newton wrote:

Jorginho wrote:

You have your analyses, you have your requirements. What should we think about? To me it is all about the system, so lenses too and that combo's size and weight. Not much has changed at all.

Since 2012 mFTs has had its own development too. Much better AF especially C-AF with Panasonics, but also EM1. Video and still IQ has gone up (but for stills compared to the Em5, which is also 2012, not much). Lens choice is still to my mind by far the best and unqiue in the mirrorless segment but most importantly I cannot find equivalents in my case in any other systemcam.

But to each their own. We can make a fuss about the details, but Sony and Fuji will get you where you want too (Fuji not for video, okey..). So does it matter? If you are nitpicking like me it does, but a more realistic view tells me that "not so much" is the better answer.

Sony has BIG covered. The A6000 is too big for most pockets and almost all their lenses rated above dismal are too big or too heavy to be pocket-able.

yes most all larger format lenses are bigger.This is just basic physics. The op seems well aware. Calling the MFT pocket able is a bit of a stretch. You need to be very selective with your bodies and lenses and/or have some seriously large pockets

None can compete with the 20mm F/1.7 or 45mm F/1.8 on a GM5.

a5000 and 20 1.8. Very similar

There is no such lens. No need to make stuff up.

Sony has a pretty average 20mm F/2.8, which equals 30mm F/4.3 while the better Panasonic is 30mm and F/3.5.

The A5000 is also a larger crippled camera lacking any option for a VF.

Interesting where you get the panasonic is better. Any evidence to back that up would be nice. You did the math yourself and see they are quite similar in size, cost, focal length, and aperture. The size of the two bodies is also quite similar.

http://camerasize.com/compact/#508,570,ha,f

Th very first thing I pointed out was that it isnt apples to apples because the a5000 does not have an evf. There are plenty of other differences too like hinged screen, flash unit is a seperate accessory, sensor, etc.....All I was pointing out was that there are other options. You stated that they do not exist

It gets even worse if one wants a longer focal length. All the Sony lenses over 80mm (EFL) are HUGE while the aforementioned 45mm (90mm) is very small.

yes lenses get bigger with larger sensors.

And no option to get smaller.

I agreed with that. MFT can win the portability title all day long

The best part about M43 (and Nikon 1) is one can carry a whole system comfortably in their pockets, no bag needed. We are left free to use both hands for activities without the worry of leaving (in the case of an A7 and a few lenses) a $3000-$5000 system somewhere accidentally.

I see your a father and as such photography is often a secondary endeavor. This I understand and am in no way arguing with you. I am just pointing out that you are putting portability as your top priority.

As everyone already knows, the best camera is the one you have with you. There is a HUGE difference between a camera one can put in a pocket and a camera that needs a bag. Like a smartphone, give me a camera that fits in a pocket and I will use it more and take it more places. Add the option of 100mm+ lenses that also fit in a pocket and I'll get even more use out of it.

What pockets are you talking about here? A large coat? Baggy cargo pants? You are really stretching the limits of what one would consider "pocketable". My earlier example was practically the same size and weight.

With Sony those options are non-existent. And with Sony's decision almost 3 years ago to go exclusively with only releasing larger FF lenses averaging well over $1200 each

guess you don't know much about lenses for the sony system eh? 18-105 and 28 f 2 just to name two off the top of my head

, it makes this decision even easier.

I am not trying to convince you that you should do anything differently. You made your choice and I am sure you are quite happy. What I was trying to point out is that there are other options out there. The a5000 was a very limited example of your illustration of one of the most portable setups. If "pocketability is your only criteria there is the rx100 series(among others) which will almost fit into an average mans pants pockets. There are other mirrorless lenses that are definitely larger and or more expensive but are capable of more things

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