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While travelling I prefer not to bring laptop with me. JPEGs I can store, view and even preliminary PP on iPad, but RAW is a different story.

Any suggestions on RAW file backup and storage with ability to view them would be appreciated.
 
nafik said:
While travelling I prefer not to bring laptop with me. JPEGs I can store, view and even preliminary PP on iPad, but RAW is a different story.

Any suggestions on RAW file backup and storage
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nafik said:
with ability to view them would be appreciated.
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Hmmmm. A laptop? Maybe a small one?

Alternatively, there is a new version of Lightroom for Android tablets which can view and edit raw files. The problem will be that most tablet computers don't have much storage for huge raw files: once you add a hard drive, the convenience factor for these goes way down, as well as the awkwardness of having two devices connected by a delicate cable, making a laptop with an internal 1 TB hard drive very attractive.
 
nafik said:
While travelling I prefer not to bring laptop with me. JPEGs I can store, view and even preliminary PP on iPad, but RAW is a different story.

Any suggestions on RAW file backup and storage with ability to view them would be appreciated.
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nafik said:
While travelling I prefer not to bring laptop with me. JPEGs I can store, view and even preliminary PP on iPad, but RAW is a different story.

Any suggestions on RAW file backup and storage with ability to view them would be appreciated.
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I have a small storage device that uploads files from a camera or card reader, which I bought years ago. I will look up the manufacturer and see if they are still available.
 
I did this on a recent trip using a tablet (Samsung Galaxy Note 2012) connected to a powered USB Hub/Card Reader.

This is the setup:

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I used the hard drive because of limited space on-board the tablet and the hub needed to be powered because the tablet doesn't have sufficient power to drive it. Power was provided by the standard AC adapter for the tablet.

The hub/card reader was a cheap one I got on Ebay.

It all worked well - I just connected it up at my accommodation in the evening and let the file transfer occur while I went and did something else - such as had a glass of wine while watching the sunset. ;-)

I wasn't too concerned about viewing the raws (I was shooting mainly jpgs anyway) but there are apps that will do that on Android and I assume for iPad as well.

In retrospect I could probably have used large capacity USB thumb drives rather than the hard drive and they probably wouldn't have need the power.



Cheers

Brian
 
Mordi said:
nafik said:
While travelling I prefer not to bring laptop with me. JPEGs I can store, view and even preliminary PP on iPad, but RAW is a different story.

Any suggestions on RAW file backup and storage with ability to view them would be appreciated.
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I use an ipad air 2 and camera connection kit to move the files from an sd card. The ipad app wont display raw files but an app like File Browser will do a nice job.

I retain the files on the sd card (2nd copy) and if I want a 3rd copy use a Toshiba Wireless SSD, its a completely solid state drive with an sd reader, 128gb for about $75 usd. It's more expensive per gb than the WD or others but I prefer to avoid a spinning hard drive when travelling for reliability. It also hosts a wifi connection to other devices.

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I do something like this with an older Nexus tablet and a USB stick instead of the drive. As you said, no external power needed with the USB stick and it is more compact and possibly more durable than the spinning drive. A powered hub might solve the problem I had in that there was no way to get power to the tablet while the hub was plugged in, so I had to be sure it had a good charge before beginning a transfer.

Seems like there should be something similar for iPad.

Gato
 
Bob657 said:
I use an ipad air 2 and camera connection kit to move the files from an sd card. The ipad app wont display raw files but an app like File Browser will do a nice job.

I retain the files on the sd card (2nd copy) and if I want a 3rd copy use a Toshiba Wireless SSD, its a completely solid state drive with an sd reader, 128gb for about $75 usd. It's more expensive per gb than the WD or others but I prefer to avoid a spinning hard drive when travelling for reliability. It also hosts a wifi connection to other devices.
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nafik said:
RAVPower looks very attractive

Thanks

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Looks interesting, just a caution...when I went looking at the upper models I found this on amazon about the RP-WD03:
nafik said:

Imagine my shock and disappointment when one of the first things I see when I associate the RAVPower RP-WD03 with my own wireless as a client is it hitting some IP address out of Shenzhen in mainland China and maintaining some type of udp heartbeat there. I haven't thrown wireshark at it yet, but I have little interest in trying to figure out *what* they're phoning home about - anything more than "nothing" is totally unacceptable without clear opt-in, to which the answer will be NOPE and I don't want to hear about some integrated home-grown cloud-washed "service" that "enhances" my experience.

But that's just the sharp tip of this iceberg. Here's what I found in 10 minutes of tooling around:

It's running a Linux 2.6 kernel from more than 5 years ago and a ton of other 2011-era software.

It's got busybox (with weak sauce module choices) but no dropbear or other sshd... but telnetd is listening with a terrible default password.

Let me be clear on that: The RAVPower RP-WD03, first available on Amazon in March of 2015, does not support sshd but comes default with telnetd on and a globally known password.

WHAT YEAR IS IT?!?

It's a veritable dumping ground of lazy product iteration since... oh wow, this is too rich - look at this... since the "organization came to be in 2011" right there on ravpower.com's about page... the rough age of most of the system software.

Yeah, so based on the dates, they pushed a pretty poorly designed original system firmware image for their first product out the door in 2011 and have been ineptly duct taping the occasional feature into it ever since.

I cannot recommend any RAVPower products that include Linux and connect to the internet. Do not give them your business.
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I have a very cheap 10" Windows 10 tablet with two USB ports and a micro SD port which I bought a couple of months ago to use as a backup while travelling.

I have a 64GB Micro SD card in the tablet as primary storage. 64GB is likely to be more than adequate but I also have 64GB USB stick as secondary backup in exceptional circumstances. Both of these are extremely cheap and I could easily buy more USB sticks, but I can't imagine ever needing more than 128GB.

I have a USB card reader to download files and I can also connect the camera directly with a USB cable if the card reader fails (which has happened to me before on a trip).

The only piece of software that I am going to use is FastStone (free) which can handle downloading, reviewing, minor editing and emergency raw conversions if needed. However, I am going to take a small wireless mouse as well because some functions in FastStone are difficult to manage with a touch screen.

I went for a Windows tablet after a lot of advice on these forums because it is the simplest solution. The whole lot cost me about £160 including a keyboard that I probably won't be taking with me. Total weight of everything including the charger is 850 gm.
 
apathyman said:
I did this on a recent trip using a tablet (Samsung Galaxy Note 2012) connected to a powered USB Hub/Card Reader.

This is the setup:

4b6f6fd391014789882c39d6bb6a99cc.jpg


I used the hard drive because of limited space on-board the tablet and the hub needed to be powered because the tablet doesn't have sufficient power to drive it. Power was provided by the standard AC adapter for the tablet.

The hub/card reader was a cheap one I got on Ebay.

It all worked well - I just connected it up at my accommodation in the evening and let the file transfer occur while I went and did something else - such as had a glass of wine while watching the sunset. ;-)

I wasn't too concerned about viewing the raws (I was shooting mainly jpgs anyway) but there are apps that will do that on Android and I assume for iPad as well.

In retrospect I could probably have used large capacity USB thumb drives rather than the hard drive and they probably wouldn't have need the power.

Cheers

Brian
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Hoi Which App do you use in this combination?

Do i understand correctly you copy your SD card via the tablet to the Hard Drive



Chris
 
chris alberts said:
apathyman said:
I did this on a recent trip using a tablet (Samsung Galaxy Note 2012) connected to a powered USB Hub/Card Reader.

This is the setup:

4b6f6fd391014789882c39d6bb6a99cc.jpg


I used the hard drive because of limited space on-board the tablet and the hub needed to be powered because the tablet doesn't have sufficient power to drive it. Power was provided by the standard AC adapter for the tablet.

The hub/card reader was a cheap one I got on Ebay.

It all worked well - I just connected it up at my accommodation in the evening and let the file transfer occur while I went and did something else - such as had a glass of wine while watching the sunset. ;-)

I wasn't too concerned about viewing the raws (I was shooting mainly jpgs anyway) but there are apps that will do that on Android and I assume for iPad as well.

In retrospect I could probably have used large capacity USB thumb drives rather than the hard drive and they probably wouldn't have need the power.

Cheers

Brian
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Hoi Which App do you use in this combination?
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It's just a basic file manager - Ghost Commander in this case - but any file manager should do the job. I just like the two-pane arrangement of Ghost Commander over some of the others.

chris alberts said:
Do i understand correctly you copy your SD card via the tablet to the Hard Drive
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Yes. The SD card and the hard drive both show up as drives in the file manager. Then it's just a case of copying the files from the card to the hard drive.



Cheers

Brian
 
nafik said:
While travelling I prefer not to bring laptop with me. JPEGs I can store, view and even preliminary PP on iPad, but RAW is a different story.

Any suggestions on RAW file backup and storage with ability to view them would be appreciated.
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