All things being equal Samsung NX1 or Sony A77II (lenses)

andre2you wrote:

Camera Newton wrote:

andre2you wrote:

Ari Aikomus wrote:

andre2you wrote:

Camera Newton wrote:

I had an A77ii and now own the NX1. The A77ii is a very good camera, but is pretty noisy in low light. I never understood why because DxO said it should be better. But when I compared it to the NX1 at ISO3200 under the same conditions the noise was too prevalent for me. For video the A77ii had a lot of issues too. For example, if you want AF, you are forced to use F/3.5 even if you lens is F/2.8. The NX1 on the other hand has 4K and 120FPS video.

There are good things about the A77ii too. The 16-50mm F/2.8 zoom is very inexpensive, and there are some older Minolta lenses that are great values. Most are too loud for video though.

Overall, I think the NX1 beats the A77ii in every category, so I would prefer the NX1.

Thanks, When I had the NX1 I purchased the 16-50 PZ lens and the 50-200. I really wasn't happy the 16-50 for some reason (I guess I just didn't like the power zoom). The 50-200 seemed decent for photos (I actually compared a photo I took with it compared to the Sony 70-300 "G" II w/the same exact settings and I actually liked the clarity on the NX1 better). I unfortunately deleted all the test video that I took with the NX1 so I couldn't compare it to the Sony. As I have mentioned in another thread, I'm just not sure that the 50-150 would be enough focal length for video at college football games (taking marching band video of my daughter). I'm not try to take pictures of her face from across the field (I tried that with the cannon from across the field and trying to do that handheld created an almost impossible video to watch).

I would say, that just enjoy what you have now. A77II is great camera, and its AF is better than smasung NX1 AF. Samsung has great AF if consider that it's mirrorless camera, but it can't fully compete with SLR-type phase detection AF system.

Also future of NX system is very uncertain.

Ari

I thought the AF of the NX1 was better? I don't really know, I guess I'll have to do more investigation. As fas as the Future of the NX system goes, I had my last camera , a Sony F828 since late 2004 and that was fixed lens with no updates, so I don't plan on upgrading anytime soon (I have a house remodel to pay for). I would only want a wide angle lens as a addition and I would be all set. If the AF on the Sony is better locking on subjects for video then I would stay with Sony.

I went form A77ii -> NX1. The NX1 is better is most but not every situation. Both are very good in all situations.

Neither mount has a safe future, but the NX1 will be competitive for a good 5 years, while the A77ii with poor high ISO results and lack of 4K video is already a step behind. But I know people with 8 year cameras who are content.

I think the only way to really settle it for me is to order the NX1 and the perform a head to head comparison. I'll only be able to compare the a77II with the 16-50 2.8 vs. NX1 with the 16-50 f2-2.8. my main concern will be video subject tracking, face detection and quality of the cropped video output.

Remember too that while the NX1 can do that at F/2.0 with the short end of the zoom, the A77ii will always be stuck at F/3.5.   The 1+ stop of light and lack of SLT mirror will favor the NX1 in low light.