It sure looks like an A9 professional body is headed our way and Photokina is the perfect venue to announce. Canon and Nikon have updated their top bodies just as Olympic qualifiers get underway. So, the competition is set. For me, the G Master lenses were the first big hint that a professional camera is around the corner. I sure hope that the pro service holds up their end.
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Are You Ready for the G Master Camera Body?
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Ready? Yes
Interested? Not really
I'd imagine the "pro-body" A9 would pack the following......
#1 Better AF performance with close to 10fps burst shooting.
#2 Bigger body to accomodate weather-sealing and bigger batteries.
#3 Dual SD cards?
#4 Touchscreen?
I do not need #1
I do not want #2
I do not need #3
Slightly intrigued with #4
Interested? Not really
I'd imagine the "pro-body" A9 would pack the following......
#1 Better AF performance with close to 10fps burst shooting.
#2 Bigger body to accomodate weather-sealing and bigger batteries.
#3 Dual SD cards?
#4 Touchscreen?
I do not need #1
I do not want #2
I do not need #3
Slightly intrigued with #4
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Beaverhelmet
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Yup, I am ready. Not buying it initially, but I would love to see one or two large hardcore pro E-mount bodies (A9?). And after that, I want to see Sony launch a cheap super compact FF E-mount body (A5?) as well (a street shooters wet dream). It would shut up the people saying Sony has abandoned the initial idea with their mirrorless cameras, when in fact they are widening the concept.
sportyaccordy
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Has zero bearing on my life.... I am more looking forward to the gen III bodies to further drive down gen II used prices.
Curious situation though, especially factoring in battery life. If Sony makes a new battery to give this A9 pro DSLR battery life we can kiss whatever weight advantage MILCs had goodbye. Beyond that I'm struggling to see the benefit added over pro DSLRs within the context of typical pro DSLR use (sports and wildlife). Silent shutter mode maybe?
Curious situation though, especially factoring in battery life. If Sony makes a new battery to give this A9 pro DSLR battery life we can kiss whatever weight advantage MILCs had goodbye. Beyond that I'm struggling to see the benefit added over pro DSLRs within the context of typical pro DSLR use (sports and wildlife). Silent shutter mode maybe?
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More than battery life can come with new batteries. Also, more current to drive autofocus motors. How about dual next generation processors, no overheating..no 30 minute time limit on videos...no mirror slap, or blackout. How about zero lag and much better evf? More /better controls...
Lightshow
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I'm interested in a FF version of the A6300/NEX-7, other than that, the A7r will do everything I want.
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the 30min time limit is due to european tax laws. it wont change
You could reverse the question and ask what advantages DSLR's have?
EVF lag and AF speed/accuracy is catching up quick. MILC's will always have the advantage of live-view to get the correct exposure and WB settings. And you get killer features like eye-AF and focus peaking. Also, wide angles lenses will be smaller.
sportyaccordy
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Battery life, processors, AF focus current, no time limit on videos, better ergonomics would all apply to DSLRs too.... those are not MILC only advantages. And the rest is just fantasy at this point in time.
For those using "Classic" DSLR's...Known proven commodity and familiarity are considered advantages.
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Not only do the above also apply to DSLR, but these advantages have been around for some time, but slightly smaller would be nice, no lag ultra high resolution, high dynamic range EVF would be great and of course, no mirror viewfinder dropout or shake.
So, mirrorless is playing catchup in some ways, but with regards to some of the above, autofocus point coverage and so on.. mirrorless rules. What Sony mirrorless doesn't have is on chip cross type phase detectors. This will need to addressed in order to get the type of reliable focus that pros expect. Obviously, sensor heat dissipation is another mirrorless challenge.
I would not expect the A9 to be a 1DxII killer, but it should be a respectable jump up in performance compared to the A7rII.... which for most of what I do, is a wonderful body.
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I jsut want a camera and lens from Sony to be 'definitely' weather sealed... Not... resistant or 'I think its sealed'... I would buy a Pro body with 24-70 if it was definitely sealed.
sportyaccordy
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A lot. More native AF lenses for starters, generally for less money than the MILC equivalent. Battery life.
The value of EVF for exposure is dubious at best given that EVFs show a JPG, not RAW, preview/histogram/blinkies/zebras. So for critical exposure nailing you are just as in the dark with an MILC as with a DSLR. Best bet is to learn how to use your camera and know how to set up its metering properly so you aren't trying to set exposure yourself with every shot. WB is a more legit concern but not a concern if you shoot RAW.
Eye-AF is nice and a legit advantage of MILCs. But there are DSLRs with focus peaking (Pentax). Plus again that is not tech that cannot be implemented on a DSLR in live view mode, which is used a lot in studio shooting.
WA lens advantage is dubious. For example Nikon 24 1.8 is the same exact weight and is actually smaller in size than the Batis 25 while being 1/2 the price. FE 16-35 is marginally smaller than other 16-35/4s, and of course is more $$$. SEL1018 is only fractionally smaller & lighter (less than 10mm in length/diameter and 15g) than the Canon 10-18 IS STM. So if there is an advantage it's small, and it comes at a high price. Is saving 10mm here or there really worth paying double for? I guess that is up to the individual but not me.
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Glenn
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Just buy a housing. with the housings you can change the seals at regular intervals to keep it watertight. the camera WILL one day not be weather sealed because you can't maintain the seals and that could be an hour or a year after you've bought it. nobody will repair water damage on a camera body under warranty
There were two versions of the a700 - one with a grip sensor (useful) and a European version that did not have the sensor because of nickel content regulations. That was a hardware difference. Video limits differing across markets would be even easier implement since we're just talking firmware.
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Is that a lot? The lens gap is smaller when you consider the likelihood of 50+ MP sensors moving forward. These sensors will out-resolve most of the older Canikon lenses. And I thought you were posting on the premises that battery life (and camera size) are going to be the same?
I feel the sensor and software-related advantages (which you dismissed, subjectively) of MILC's far outweigh the 2 advantages you listed. As we see advancements in technology, the mirror box assembly will undoubtedly become an obsolete (and unnecessary) mechanism. It's inevitable, really.
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