Is the Yn650 - Tx for nikon compatible with the yn622c series?

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Bought a yn560 - tx for nikon by mistake, will it still work with my yn622c - tx, and my yn622c, and yn685?
 
Bought a yn560 - tx for nikon by mistake, will it still work with my yn622c - tx, and my yn622c, and yn685?
No the YN560TX is deigned to control the MANUAL YN 560 III or IV models. It is my understanding that on the YN560 TX models, the only difference between the Nikon and Canon models are the cords that come with them.
 
Bought a yn560 - tx for nikon by mistake, will it still work with my yn622c - tx, and my yn622c, and yn685?
No the YN560TX is deigned to control the MANUAL YN 560 III or IV models. It is my understanding that on the YN560 TX models, the only difference between the Nikon and Canon models are the cords that come with them.
The YN560C-TX comes in two physical versions - a Nikon foot and a Canon foot. The version must match the camera. (No cable provided or required.)

The YN560C-TX can control flashes sitting on a 622C or 622C II receiver either direct or via a YN622C-TX as translator.

The YN560C-TX can control directly a YN685C through its built-in receiver.

The YN560N-TX is unable to work with the 622C series.

Take a look at TOYUG II (The Other YN622C User Guide II) especiall pages 65-74 at

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B77OmmGIg0gMMzZFaDVlZ1VNTE0/view?usp=sharing

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Clive
 
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Bought a yn560 - tx for nikon by mistake, will it still work with my yn622c - tx, and my yn622c, and yn685?
No the YN560TX is deigned to control the MANUAL YN 560 III or IV models. It is my understanding that on the YN560 TX models, the only difference between the Nikon and Canon models are the cords that come with them.
The YN560C-TX comes in two physical versions - a Nikon foot and a Canon foot. The version must match the camera. (No cable provided or required.)

The YN560C-TX can control flashes sitting on a 622C or 622C II receiver either direct or via a YN622C-TX as translator.

The YN560C-TX can control directly a YN685C through its built-in receiver.

The YN560N-TX is unable to work with the 622C series.

Take a look at TOYUG II (The Other YN622C User Guide II) especiall pages 65-74 at

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B77OmmGIg0gMMzZFaDVlZ1VNTE0/view?usp=sharing

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Clive
I seems you are most likely the author of TOYUG II based upon the common Clive from Tauranga, New Zealand connection. Let my congratulate you. Impressive piece of work, well done! The total opposite of YongNuo's cryptic ESL (English as a Second Language) documentation.

I looked in the link and failed to find any YN 560TX distinction mentioned in relation to operation with the YN 622C gear covered. I would think that would be important enough to be included but perhaps I just missed. What page is in on?

I want to understand more about why your quote says the YN 560N-TX doesn't work. I assume this is based upon having tried it.

This is where I'm coming from. Both the Canon and Nikon 560TX versions have no problem controlling YN 560III/560IV units which have no Canon/Nikon distinction. That implies to me both versions are sending the same data out with regard to flash settings and fire flash signal. Because you can mix Nikon and Canon versions of the RF-603II transceivers also implies the flash triggering signal is common. I'm left with flash wake up as the only possibility.

Thanks for any help you can provide.
  • John
 
I seems you are most likely the author of TOYUG II based upon the common Clive from Tauranga, New Zealand connection. Let my congratulate you. Impressive piece of work, well done! The total opposite of YongNuo's cryptic ESL (English as a Second Language) documentation.
Thank you!
I looked in the link and failed to find any YN 560TX distinction mentioned in relation to operation with the YN 622C gear covered. I would think that would be important enough to be included but perhaps I just missed. What page is in on?
The Guide is about the 622C system,and at 90 pages is already 74 pages too long. A pdf search should reveal info on 560 integration.
I want to understand more about why your quote says the YN 560N-TX doesn't work. I assume this is based upon having tried it.
You do not need to test whether a petrol tank can be filled with water to know the outcome. I have tested and do use YN560C-TX with YN622C and Canon-compatible flashes.
This is where I'm coming from. Both the Canon and Nikon 560TX versions have no problem controlling YN 560III/560IV units which have no Canon/Nikon distinction.
Because those flashes are programmed to work with both coding streams.
That implies to me both versions are sending the same data out with regard to flash settings and fire flash signal.
The assumption is false. The coding is not the same.
Because you can mix Nikon and Canon versions of the RF-603II transceivers also implies the flash triggering signal is common.
Another false assumption. The 560C-TX uses its own code stream, which 622C components convert to Canon E-TTL coding.

The ancient RF-603 does not use those codes, using instead the state and transition of the non-ETTL pins (like wakeup) to convey its limited instruction set.
 
I seems you are most likely the author of TOYUG II based upon the common Clive from Tauranga, New Zealand connection. Let my congratulate you. Impressive piece of work, well done! The total opposite of YongNuo's cryptic ESL (English as a Second Language) documentation.
Thank you!
I looked in the link and failed to find any YN 560TX distinction mentioned in relation to operation with the YN 622C gear covered. I would think that would be important enough to be included but perhaps I just missed. What page is in on?
The Guide is about the 622C system,and at 90 pages is already 74 pages too long. A pdf search should reveal info on 560 integration.
I want to understand more about why your quote says the YN 560N-TX doesn't work. I assume this is based upon having tried it.
You do not need to test whether a petrol tank can be filled with water to know the outcome. I have tested and do use YN560C-TX with YN622C and Canon-compatible flashes.
This is where I'm coming from. Both the Canon and Nikon 560TX versions have no problem controlling YN 560III/560IV units which have no Canon/Nikon distinction.
Because those flashes are programmed to work with both coding streams.
That implies to me both versions are sending the same data out with regard to flash settings and fire flash signal.
The assumption is false. The coding is not the same.
Because you can mix Nikon and Canon versions of the RF-603II transceivers also implies the flash triggering signal is common.
Another false assumption. The 560C-TX uses its own code stream, which 622C components convert to Canon E-TTL coding.

The ancient RF-603 does not use those codes, using instead the state and transition of the non-ETTL pins (like wakeup) to convey its limited instruction set.
 
My profuse apologies for the thread hijack, but seems how Clive is on this thread... I have a question.

If I put a Yongnuo YN-622C-TX (i.e. Canon version) on my 5D3, and then place my Nissin i40 (Fuji version) on a Yongnou YN-622C (Canon), can I use the 622C-TX to remotely control the power settings of the Nissin i40 (Fuji version)? All in manual mode, of course.

I'm assuming not having read bits of Clive's manual but thought I'd ask anyway.

And thank you so much Clive for your wonderful manual which is now bookmarked as I own a pair of YN-622C.

(BTW, I had already started a new thread about this on the Fuji X System forum here - if anyone kind enough to answer prefers to post there instead).
 
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Hey Clive I need to ask you one more thing, i just got myself stands and brackets in India, but the hotshoe on the bracket is this fat plastic that doesnt allow my yn685's to snap on. Honestly i dont like this snapping stuff cuz i find screwing it in far more reliable. but anyway could you please advice me on brackets? I have added images, but if non of those will work, then if you could tell me the model ill find a generic counter part on the Indian market.

Neewer:



 Neewer with this locking foot mechanism

Neewer with this locking foot mechanism



digitek

digitek

Thanks a lot!
 
Hello everyone!

I happened by chance in this thread and, although very dated, apparently it is still well indexed by search engines because the topic is clearly still current. So whoever falls here is likely to continue reading some completely incorrect statements. It is therefore worth clarifying the question definitively:

THE ONLY DIFFERENCE between the Canon and Nikon versions of this transmitter is the activation of the wake-up functionality. Apart from this feature, for ALL the rest the two versions are absolutely and definitely identical, in hardware as well in firmware.

Regards from Sardinia!

Antonello S.

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“When I press the shutter I'm looking for something: it is rarely in what I'm seeing, almost always is hidden in what I'm imagining...” (A.S.)
 
Hello everyone!

I happened by chance in this thread and, although very dated, apparently it is still well indexed by search engines because the topic is clearly still current. So whoever falls here is likely to continue reading some completely incorrect statements. It is therefore worth clarifying the question definitively:

THE ONLY DIFFERENCE between the Canon and Nikon versions of this transmitter is the activation of the wake-up functionality. Apart from this feature, for ALL the rest the two versions are absolutely and definitely identical, in hardware as well in firmware.

Regards from Sardinia!

Antonello S.
Welcome to DPReview.

Would you care to share details to support your emphatic statement about YN 560-TX hardware and firmware ?

SeedyBee's response was that they are different but unfortunately he hasn't been active on dpr since Dec. 13, 2016 so I don't expect any new response from him on this subject.

The topic of this old forum thread was whether the Canon/Nikon distinction of a 560-TX units made any difference with how the 560-TX interacted with YN's 622 TTL system. IMO YN's integration of their 560-TX/RF-603II manual flash trigger gear with their 622 TTL system gear remains a very limited confusing mess and is best avoided. For good integration of manual and TTL flash in inexpensive radio triggers at this point in time the obvious choice is Godox's X1 gear.
  • John
 
Hello everyone!

(...)

THE ONLY DIFFERENCE between the Canon and Nikon versions of this transmitter is the activation of the wake-up functionality. Apart from this feature, for ALL the rest the two versions are absolutely and definitely identical, in hardware as well in firmware.

(...)
(...)

Would you care to share details to support your emphatic statement about YN 560-TX hardware and firmware ?

(...)

John
Hi John,

the statement is not from mine, but it comes directly from Yongnuo, long before this thread! First it was marketed the base version, named YN 560-TX; then, some time after, the two versions CaNikon were added, with the standard distinction by mean of the letters C and N added to the name, and Yongnuo stated OFFICIALLY that (2014):
«Both versions will operate with any camera model which have a standard hot-shoe. The dedicated Canon and Nikon function is just for the flash wake up feature.»

Then in 2017 the mark II model of the transmitter was marketed, again with this three versions, and Yongnuo repeated the same statement as for the previous version.

If you are asking for a “citation” to endorse my information (à la Wikipedia), I have to say that I don't have stored a link or a screenshot to any press presentation from Yongnuo... nor from any other else, of course!!! But, after a short search on Google for the statement "The dedicated Canon and Nikon function is just for the flash wake up feature" I found a plethora of pages talking of this transmitter and all reporting those exact words, because they were just copied-and-pasted from the press release by Yongnuo. For example you can see this reviews of the YN 560-TX (2014) and the YN 560-TX II (2017), both reporting the same “peremptory statement”.

Yongnuo YN560-TX Review

Yongnuo YN560-TX II Review

My emphasis is due just to the wonder of being brought by google to a topic, still open after four years, which discussed uselessly about a fact that was already clearly known all around the world more than two years before it was opened.

Best regards and good day!

Antonello S.

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“When I press the shutter I'm looking for something: it is rarely in what I'm seeing, almost always is hidden in what I'm imagining...” (A.S.)
 

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