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I have an X-T1 and Fuji glass. Also and X-Pro1.

I have the X-Pro2 on order, but I'm wondering what if I cancelled that order and bought a Sony. Any body have both Fuji and Sony a7 type cameras?

Opinions?
 
I have both. Any specific questions?

I'm much more heavily invested in Fuji. Lots of intriguing lenses.. I have the A7II and 55mm. I've also tried the 24-240 and 28 and the smaller 35. Not sure which direction I'm going with Sony, but I really like the 55mm so I'll probably grab another lens at some point.
 
"I have an X-T1 and Fuji glass. Also and X-Pro1."

Don't be so rash. You are well invested in a really good system. Don't blink.
 
The Photo Ninja said:
which is faster, which looks better?
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Hmm.. Faster? I'd probably go with the X-T1, but certain lenses are faster than others. Which camera looks better? Fuji makes the sexiest cameras.



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The Photo Ninja said:
Really?

I love Fuji IQ, but the focusing could always be faster.
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A7II is possibly as fast, just less accurate unless using face recognition. Sony is spot on with face focusing. Fuji is more accurate using AF-s single point focus than the Sony.
 
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You obviously have FUJI lenses

Do you have any Sony lenses ? Image quality on Sony will depend on what lens you put on it. Perhaps you need to ask that question as well - which lens for better quality.
 
This is a comparison I'm quite interested in. I've been shooting with an XT-1 for two years now (I chose it over the original A7) and do feel the IQ limits of the sensor at times - particularly in loss of detail as the ISO climbs (even as I'm a RAW shooter exclusively) - and I've been looking at the A7II as an option.

The new 24mp Fuji sensor seems to be doing quite a lot better and now compares well at higher ISO's - at least from what we can see from the ACR-driven comparometer at DPReview.

I'd like to hear what you like about the A7II's image relative to the XT-1 and vice-versa. And what do you think the new Fuji sensor brings relative to what you like in the A7II.

Secondly, how do you feel the A7II and the XT-1 compare in terms of handling and responsiveness. They are such different beasts in this regard.

Thanks.
 
The Photo Ninja said:
I have an X-T1 and Fuji glass. Also and X-Pro1.

I have the X-Pro2 on order, but I'm wondering what if I cancelled that order and bought a Sony. Any body have both Fuji and Sony a7 type cameras?

Opinions?
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I have an xt1 and an a7r2. My Fuji lens lineup is basically full while the only native lens I have for the Sony is the 28/2. Lens selection and quality of FE stuff especially when considering the price:performance/QC ratio is just poor. So for the time being, I just have the one FE lens since it is pretty good at a reasonable price. Had the FE 35/1.4 for a while and it was great at one thing and poor at everything else since the optics were not up to par (especially for $1600). The lenses I use 90% of the time with the Sony are all in Canon EF mount and adapted.

Fuji glass in general is great when considering there is no other ASPC line out there that is as complete with great options. Cost is reasonable unless you are preordering a new lens and paying the premium right away. Performance of all the faster primes is stellar.

I too have the xpro2 on preorder. But since we don't have it in our hands yet, it is impossible to know how good it will be.

Since you already own a Fuji rig, I won't go over with you all the reasons I love mine. I figure talking about more reasons why you might consider the Sony would be more useful.

Couple questions though. Which A7 body are you considering? And what lenses would you be using? Also, what do you shoot primarily?

Some points if you're considering the A7R2:

-Focusing is the best I've experienced with a mirrorless body to date. Significantly better than the xt1

-The raw files are the best I've had to date with regard to flexibility in post

-I am able to shoot all the way through the extended ISOs and still get very usable shots as there is so much resolution and data in the files that you will still be able to get very good looking prints or normal viewing size JPEGs from the raw files at the highest ISOs

-IBIS is the real deal

-Viewfinder is the best I've used yet. Manual focus is much better than on the xt1 even with the PIP of the xt1

-There is still lag in operation. Image review is slow, zooming in is slow, and general function just isn't swift. UI is still not great and shooting experience just isn't anywhere near as enjoyable as with the xt1

-Focus point selection still requires an extra click and there is no direct selection yet (perhaps coming in a future firmware update)

-Native lens line is overpriced (relative to other brands) and most are nothing to write home about (don't listen to the fanboys). QC is also an issue. Lots of good options if you're willing to adapt though. Consider that for the price of my entire Fuji kit which includes the 16, 23, 35/1.4, 56, 90, 18-55, 50-230 + Body, I paid just a shade less for only the Sony + 35/1.4.

-Full frame glass will always be the size of full frame glass. So if you're wanting to shoot with fast primes, they will always be large

-Electronic shutter only goes up to 1/8000th. I utilize the xt1 at faster speeds than that regularly

I'm sure there are some other things I'm forgetting to mention. But those are most of the main things I personally would consider when looking at making the switch in purchase from xpro to A7x.
 
Walter H said:
This is a comparison I'm quite interested in. I've been shooting with an XT-1 for two years now (I chose it over the original A7) and do feel the IQ limits of the sensor at times - particularly in loss of detail as the ISO climbs (even as I'm a RAW shooter exclusively) - and I've been looking at the A7II as an option.

The new 24mp Fuji sensor seems to be doing quite a lot better and now compares well at higher ISO's - at least from what we can see from the ACR-driven comparometer at DPReview.

I'd like to hear what you like about the A7II's image relative to the XT-1 and vice-versa. And what do you think the new Fuji sensor brings relative to what you like in the A7II.

Secondly, how do you feel the A7II and the XT-1 compare in terms of handling and responsiveness. They are such different beasts in this regard.

Thanks.
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Keep in mind, I'm no pro, just an enthusiast so my needs may not be the same as everyone else. I've done a bunch of high ISO testing, and for my needs, the Fuji produces a slightly "nicer" noise at similar exposures than the Sony. The A7II produces a grainy, more harsh noise in my experience. ISO values are a little inflated on the Fuji compared to the Sony, but the same can be said with the Sony compared to my D700.

I specifically like the A7II + 55mm combo for detail. When all goes well, the level of detail captured beats any combo I've tried. I wasn't really blown away with the results from the 24-240, 28mm f2.8, 35 f2.8. So thats why I now only have one lens. I've tried the 70-200 f/4 and liked it a lot, so that may be in my future. The Batis 85mm has been on my list as well.

I love the Fuji jpeg rendering and color profiles available. I love the way my Fuji handles and the placement of the controls on camera. I love the consistent quality among all the lenses I own. I believe the Fuji lens pricing is pretty fair - especially used. Basically, I love the entire Fuji ecosystem.

I dislike the Sony menu system, but find this camera a much better shooting experience than say an A6000. I really like a vertical grip on this camera, so that kind of makes the size-saving part vs a dslr a non factor. I like the overall quality/feel of the camera and most of the Sony/Zeiss lenses I've handled. I like shooting at ISO 50 - 25600 raw and 1/8000s. I like in body stabilization on adapted lenses.

Not sure if I helped or not, but I enjoy owning both camera systems.
 
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After owning the EX2 and XT1 plus lenses and switching over to an A7R my opinion is stay with Fuji for now.

The Sony A_ camera bodies are great, but the kit is bigger and Sony lenses have too many issues.

That said you can use a variety of other AF lenses on the A7_ so if you are a tinker type of person, then maybe Sony otherwise stay with Fuji, especially if you demand top optics.

Now don't get me wrong I really like full frame mirrorless, and I doubt I will move back now. I can't see the move making my images any better, but if the Xpro2 had a tilt touch screen and IBIS, I would have my A7R up for sale already.
 
The Photo Ninja said:
I have an X-T1 and Fuji glass. Also and X-Pro1.

I have the X-Pro2 on order, but I'm wondering what if I cancelled that order and bought a Sony. Any body have both Fuji and Sony a7 type cameras?

Opinions?
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I have also been looking at used AR7 bodies to use with my Minolta Rokkor glass which I currently use on XP1/XT1.

I would of course keep my Fuji system as my primary system but recently I'm really enjoying getting back to all manual shooting with DoF as my brain still remembers it to be and FLs of the lenses as was intended. It's a whole slower game with limitations as to FL unless one wants to carry a tripod everywhere but wide angle to 135mm is easily doable handheld. It is difficult to find a decent adapted wide angle to use on Fuji because of the 1.5X factor and using an A7R would make that easier, in fact I have a 24mm f2.8 so I only need a 35mm to fill the gap between my 3 X 50-58mm lenses and 135mm f2.8.

There are so many fine 3rd party lenses out there selling for low prices and many of them have a unique character rather than sharpness across the frame (which I expect of my Fuji lenses).
 
Very funny LOL!
 
Phamtastic,

I have used the X-T1 for the majority of my photography for the past two years and really enjoy it. However, I have a Nikon D810 that I pull out for landscapes as I really like the dynamic range as well as the detail in the files when I print these on large canvas (most often 24x36), though the X-T1 does a pretty credible job with these. I also find that I grab the DSLR when trying to capture images of my grandkids indoors with less than optimal light. I really hate lug the DSLR gear around, but I do like the results from the D810. After using the EVF of the Fuji, I really dislike going back to the Optical viewfinder of the DSLR.

I preordered the X Pro 2 hoping it would address the dynamic range, high iso performance, focusing speed in less than great light and give more detail, but I am having second thoughts. I think X Pro 2 might address some of these issues, but I am on the fence about diving in deeper until I look at the alternatives that are available. I also don't really need the optical viewfinder and you are paying a premium with the X Pro 2 for it.

I am now thinking that I need to take a serious look at the A7R II and consider cancelling the X Pro 2 as it may have most of the things I like about the D810 for landscapes, the focusing for photographing the grandkids and could allow me to reduce the gear.

I would really love to get to a single platform, but not sure even with the new generation of Fuji mirrorless I would be willing to unload my full frame gear. I might be able to get close with a full frame mirrorless.

Phamtastic, you have gone in this direction and I am hoping you might add some perspective for me about how the Sony responds in these areas. I have seen some of your posts in both forums and would appreciate your perspective. Thanks.
 
mjh04 said:
Phamtastic,

I have used the X-T1 for the majority of my photography for the past two years and really enjoy it. However, I have a Nikon D810 that I pull out for landscapes as I really like the dynamic range as well as the detail in the files when I print these on large canvas (most often 24x36), though the X-T1 does a pretty credible job with these. I also find that I grab the DSLR when trying to capture images of my grandkids indoors with less than optimal light. I really hate lug the DSLR gear around, but I do like the results from the D810. After using the EVF of the Fuji, I really dislike going back to the Optical viewfinder of the DSLR.

I preordered the X Pro 2 hoping it would address the dynamic range, high iso performance, focusing speed in less than great light and give more detail, but I am having second thoughts. I think X Pro 2 might address some of these issues, but I am on the fence about diving in deeper until I look at the alternatives that are available. I also don't really need the optical viewfinder and you are paying a premium with the X Pro 2 for it.

I am now thinking that I need to take a serious look at the A7R II and consider cancelling the X Pro 2 as it may have most of the things I like about the D810 for landscapes, the focusing for photographing the grandkids and could allow me to reduce the gear.

I would really love to get to a single platform, but not sure even with the new generation of Fuji mirrorless I would be willing to unload my full frame gear. I might be able to get close with a full frame mirrorless.

Phamtastic, you have gone in this direction and I am hoping you might add some perspective for me about how the Sony responds in these areas. I have seen some of your posts in both forums and would appreciate your perspective. Thanks.
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The Photo Ninja said:
I have an X-T1 and Fuji glass. Also and X-Pro1.

I have the X-Pro2 on order, but I'm wondering what if I cancelled that order and bought a Sony. Any body have both Fuji and Sony a7 type cameras?

Opinions?
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I came from Sony 7 camp and I just felt that the mediocre, high priced lenses were not good enough, and the ZEISS ones are expensive. Most of the Sony lenses are big. I wish I learned along time ago to seek out Fuji who makes fair priced, high quality, compact lenses. I am new to FUJI and I have already seen the benefit of these lenses. Sony makes great bodies, Fuji makes great lenses and pretty darn good bodies now.
 
mjh04 said:
Phamtastic,

I have used the X-T1 for the majority of my photography for the past two years and really enjoy it. However, I have a Nikon D810 that I pull out for landscapes as I really like the dynamic range as well as the detail in the files when I print these on large canvas (most often 24x36), though the X-T1 does a pretty credible job with these. I also find that I grab the DSLR when trying to capture images of my grandkids indoors with less than optimal light. I really hate lug the DSLR gear around, but I do like the results from the D810. After using the EVF of the Fuji, I really dislike going back to the Optical viewfinder of the DSLR.

I preordered the X Pro 2 hoping it would address the dynamic range, high iso performance, focusing speed in less than great light and give more detail, but I am having second thoughts. I think X Pro 2 might address some of these issues, but I am on the fence about diving in deeper until I look at the alternatives that are available. I also don't really need the optical viewfinder and you are paying a premium with the X Pro 2 for it.

I am now thinking that I need to take a serious look at the A7R II and consider cancelling the X Pro 2 as it may have most of the things I like about the D810 for landscapes, the focusing for photographing the grandkids and could allow me to reduce the gear.

I would really love to get to a single platform, but not sure even with the new generation of Fuji mirrorless I would be willing to unload my full frame gear. I might be able to get close with a full frame mirrorless.

Phamtastic, you have gone in this direction and I am hoping you might add some perspective for me about how the Sony responds in these areas. I have seen some of your posts in both forums and would appreciate your perspective. Thanks.
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