RX 1 vs A7r II UNBELIVABLE !!!!

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I just received an used RX1 that I bought for $ 1.150 and with less than 1.500 shots made with it.

OMG now I understand why is so hard to find a used one, I got mine from a person who was funding to buy the Mark II.

I know all the drawbacks of camera with a fixed lens but it will be my travel camera without any doubt.

Dont get me wrong, I'm in love with my A7RII and the Zeiss FE 35 1.4, but this is $4.800 combo.

Both are SOOC.





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Your thoughs???
 
I'll take the first shot, though both look great!
 
Are these images taken from different positions, or is one lens considerably longer than the other?
 
The A7RII shot is sharper than the RX-1 shot. Not necessarily a good thing for this type of portrait.

However I would be very happy to have taken either. You are fortunate to have two excellent tools to work with.
 
Are these images taken from different positions, or is one lens considerably longer than the other?
I just try to frame both the same, but were taken handheld.

A real world test
 
The A7RII shot is sharper than the RX-1 shot. Not necessarily a good thing for this type of portrait.

However I would be very happy to have taken either. You are fortunate to have two excellent tools to work with.
 
Are these images taken from different positions, or is one lens considerably longer than the other?
The RX1 lens is actually a bit wider than 35mm.
 
Both are great but there are small differences.

I have to say that I prefer the first shot. For what ever reason, the highlights are not quite as blown and the shift/ transition between in focus to out of focus seems softer.

Having said that, both show your skill and really great subject choice. As a side by side though, there are differences. Apart, if would be difficult.

The lens/sensor combo does show assuming these are both genuine.

Brian
 
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Both are great but there are small differences.

I have to say that I prefer the first shot. For what ever reason, the highlights are not quite as blown and the shift/ transition between in focus to out of focus seems softer.

Having said that, both show your skill and really great subject choice. As a side by side though, there are differences. Apart, if would be difficult.

Brian
Thanks Brian, I agree with you the transition and bokeh of the first looks better to me too.

But to be fair I'm comparing two sensors with a gap of 3 years between their release dates, and thats ALOT of time in the tech industry.
 
Both are fantastic tools, yet I miss the RX1. I'd say you did really well at that price for what sounds like a pristine condition camera. Sold mine after getting the Loxia 35 and I think I'll be in the market for the MK2 later this year if I ever get my hands on one to see how I like the new AF and the popup EVF.

In your samples above I personally prefer the RX1 shots for smoother bokeh (really noticeable gradation difference around the shoulder where you have b/w contrast) and obviously different rendering (circular vs. cat eyes), though I'm not entirely sure how much of if this is due to slightly different framing and camera to subject distance.
 
I just received an used RX1 that I bought for $ 1.150 and with less than 1.500 shots made with it.

OMG now I understand why is so hard to find a used one, I got mine from a person who was funding to buy the Mark II.

I know all the drawbacks of camera with a fixed lens but it will be my travel camera without any doubt.

Dont get me wrong, I'm in love with my A7RII and the Zeiss FE 35 1.4, but this is $4.800 combo.

Both are SOOC.





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Your thoughs???
Second one for me. Which is which?
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Sony A7ii
SEL55F18Z
SEL35F28Z
LAEA3
 
At least eyes look sharper with the 35. Both look awesome otherwise. I prefer the RX1 shot.

Sold my A7R w FE35 and kept the RX1 (which I also bought used for a little bit more than what you paid, 6 mo ago but it came with 2yrs Sony accidental damage warranty!)
 
Great deal !!! ;-)
 
I just received an used RX1 that I bought for $ 1.150 and with less than 1.500 shots made with it.

OMG now I understand why is so hard to find a used one, I got mine from a person who was funding to buy the Mark II.

I know all the drawbacks of camera with a fixed lens but it will be my travel camera without any doubt.

Dont get me wrong, I'm in love with my A7RII and the Zeiss FE 35 1.4, but this is $4.800 combo.

Both are SOOC.

32dbc22d780e42aebc4f446503eab581.jpg


75ee2954d70b4cf78d5ca5341aa38ec5.jpg


Your thoughs???
Second one for me. Which is which?
--
Sony A7ii
SEL55F18Z
SEL35F28Z
LAEA3
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The second is the rx1
 
just does it.

Dare I mention the new age curse of onion rings? Sure I do, the FE55 gets panned for this too often, take a look at the 35/1.4 image here, in which they are more apparent; in almost all imagery the RX1's are invisible. The Sonnar has greater 3D as well due to subtle gradation - look along the arm. Also less blade shaping in highlight balls.

Note the dreamy OOF of the Sonnar, everything in its right place. Detail retention in background OOF areas is an RX1 specialty, something I look for in any lens, I want the viewer to have a 'wandering eye' over all the image - imparting some mystery to the image is easy to say, but very rare in optics. The RX1 seems to offer beautiful OOF depiction across all the depth of its images.

The Sonnar never looks 'obviously sharp', a hallmark of medium format photography. Much smoother contrast edging, greater authenticity on the couch material, the faster lens makes it look like an artifact.

And this is against what might be the finest fast 35 around (with the caveat I have not seen much from the new Canon lens in this critical in focus - OOF area). These fast lenses live or die on how separation works in them and frankly many of them overdo it, even stopped down a little.

To cap it all, the whole camera weighs 75% the weight of the fast lens alone, has a much flatter field at middle apertures, has a fine macro setting, costs less in good shape, never suffers sensor dust, has a great chassis/lens interface for strength/durability, is a great backup to an a7 camera, does great at any aperture (great corners). Why does everyone not own one?

BTW, the Sonnar is 32-33mm native, has very low distortion native so you can use it OOC. Sony think this is one of the finest lenses made and I agree with them.

I never leave home without mine and its been that way since day one.
 
Both are great! It would have been interesting to see the FE35 at 1.4 vs the RX1 at 2.0.

I sold my FE 35/1.4 after picking up the RX1 used (CAD$1,600 - but like new with warranty left). My copy of the 35/1.4 was perfect and I loved shooting with it, but right now I am traveling a lot and needed something more portable that I could keep in the bag. Would have loved to kept both.
 
just does it.

Dare I mention the new age curse of onion rings? Sure I do, the FE55 gets panned for this too often, take a look at the 35/1.4 image here, in which they are more apparent; in almost all imagery the RX1's are invisible. The Sonnar has greater 3D as well due to subtle gradation - look along the arm. Also less blade shaping in highlight balls.

Note the dreamy OOF of the Sonnar, everything in its right place. Detail retention in background OOF areas is an RX1 specialty, something I look for in any lens, I want the viewer to have a 'wandering eye' over all the image - imparting some mystery to the image is easy to say, but very rare in optics. The RX1 seems to offer beautiful OOF depiction across all the depth of its images.

The Sonnar never looks 'obviously sharp', a hallmark of medium format photography. Much smoother contrast edging, greater authenticity on the couch material, the faster lens makes it look like an artifact.

And this is against what might be the finest fast 35 around (with the caveat I have not seen much from the new Canon lens in this critical in focus - OOF area). These fast lenses live or die on how separation works in them and frankly many of them overdo it, even stopped down a little.

To cap it all, the whole camera weighs 75% the weight of the fast lens alone, has a much flatter field at middle apertures, has a fine macro setting, costs less in good shape, never suffers sensor dust, has a great chassis/lens interface for strength/durability, is a great backup to an a7 camera, does great at any aperture (great corners). Why does everyone not own one?

BTW, the Sonnar is 32-33mm native, has very low distortion native so you can use it OOC. Sony think this is one of the finest lenses made and I agree with them.

I never leave home without mine and its been that way since day one.
The only reason I don't own one is money
--
Sony A7ii
SEL55F18Z
SEL35F28Z
LAEA3
 
I just received an used RX1 that I bought for $ 1.150 and with less than 1.500 shots made with it.

OMG now I understand why is so hard to find a used one, I got mine from a person who was funding to buy the Mark II.

I know all the drawbacks of camera with a fixed lens but it will be my travel camera without any doubt.

Dont get me wrong, I'm in love with my A7RII and the Zeiss FE 35 1.4, but this is $4.800 combo.

Both are SOOC.

32dbc22d780e42aebc4f446503eab581.jpg


75ee2954d70b4cf78d5ca5341aa38ec5.jpg


Your thoughs???
I have argued this here several times. When considered in terms of IQ for the cost I think it is a bargain. Especially second hand.

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Mike Fewster
Adelaide Australia
 

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