D8X0 & memory and PC Requirements?

My D800 RAW files are about 45-50 MB each. When shooting a use a 32GB card in the camera which I occasionally fill up so I have a second in reserve.

When treating the files in Lightroom I keep the files on an external drive with an SSD disk connected to the computer via a USB3 cable to get the maximum i/o speed. There are several steps:

- First I go through all the files rating them and picking the ones I like. This often means going back and forth between images and reviewing in individual images at 100% to make sure its sharp and in focus. It is very annoying if the system is slow in doing this operation

- Then I lovingly correct the best images to correct colour balance, exposure, redo the lighting etc. I can put up with the system being a bit slow during this operation.

I actually have three systems that I use to edit my pictures in Lightroom, depending on whether I'm travelling or at home. I think that if you're just editing in Lightroom - and not doing something very complex in Photoshop with multiple layers - then 3GB of RAM is enough. I have Lightroom open at the moment with a D800 image and the program is using less than 300MB of RAM.

I think that the problem is your CPU which needs to render the image every time you click on it or make a modification.

Here is a link to the passmark table of CPU's : https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu_list.php

Your CPU has a Passmark of 1966. That's the same as my Surface 3 tablet (Atom Z78700). It's sluggish. Definitely not a good experience with D800 files inLIghtroom but I put up with it for short periods

My Ultrabook has an i5-4210U with a Passmark of 3383. It's better. I can put up with it.

The only system I have that I feel really comfortable with is 4 years old but it has a Core i7-2630-QM with a Passmark of 5560. That's almost three time the overall processing power of your system. The clock speed of each core is slower than yours but as it has 8 processing units which Lightroom can use the result is fast.

The only way to find out how your system performs is to try it out. It has a very fast clock speed but probably only a couple of cores.
 
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If you use lossless compression on a 32 gig SD card you will get at least 390 14 bit images. 32 gig cards are inexpensive. Since lossless compressed files are compressed they will all be slightly different sizes and you get more then the min reported to the camera when you insert an empty card. In general I find a full card will hold up to 450 raw images. The size of each raw file ranges from 40 to 50 MB.

As far as RAM - at least 8 GB 16 would be better. A Windows box will probably require a little more than a Linux box or a Mac.

In the D800 you can direct Raw to one card and Jpeg to the other if you want.
 
This is the sort of thing I am concerned about. Buying a D800 itself will be doable but if I will also need a new PC, extra hard drive, perhaps a sharper mid range zoom also, the upgrade starts to look like it may need a bigger budget than I was planning for.

Mark_A
As you go up the ladder, it is not going to be any cheaper. But you don't need to do it all at the same time. Prioritize your upgrade and spread them out over time.

Also, the Moore's law also somewhat applies to digital photography because it is computer/electronic. If you can wait, some of the newest equipment you want today, will be a lot cheaper in the future.
 
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Romfordbluenose is right.........you'll need a new PC.

I have an ASUS laptop with a 1TB SSD, 16GB RAM and an I-7xxxx (can't remember) and a 1GB (or is it 2GB?) NVDIA graphics accelerator card (GPU). The CPU is a turbo boost 2.9GHz boosted as necessary to 3.6GHz. But the point I'm making follows:

My sad experience with LR v5x was that my D810 14 bit files (about 45MB each) exhibited posterization. I found out that LR5 did NOT use the NVIDIA GPU. Upon learning that LR6 was coming out and advertised as using the GPU, I paid the $75 upgrade fee and thought my problems would be over.

Wrong: LR v6 uses the GPU only in the Develop Module. And that's true........my pics look great only in the Develop Module. When viewing images in the Library module, they have that same old posterization issue. Unacceptable.

My fix was to purchase DxO Optics Pro 10. It uses the NVIDIA GPU in all modules and my issue is now solved. LR is now relegated to be used as a database only.
Hi Lucky Sky,

At the moment I have a Pentium Dual Core CPU E6700 @ 3.2GHz with 3GB RAM the OS is win 10 64bit - I don't know where in Win 10 to find out what my graphics card is.

Mark_A
I hate to go old school, but I found the graphics card info via a label on the keyboard of the laptop: NVIDIA Geoforce 635M 2GB.
I have a Intel(R) G41 Express Chipset (Microsoft Corporation - WDDM 1.1), AKA "GMA X4500"

Don't ask me what that means :-)

Mark_A
Mark_A:

Did a bit of light "research": Right click on the desktop. By doing so, there's info there about my NVIDIA GPU that in turn sends me to the GPU control panel so that I can get the specs on the GPU itself.

As I mentioned before, the little keyboard NVIDIA label told me the same stuff.

Hope this helps.
 
My D800 RAW files are about 45-50 MB each. When shooting a use a 32GB card in the camera which I occasionally fill up so I have a second in reserve.

When treating the files in Lightroom I keep the files on an external drive with an SSD disk connected to the computer via a USB3 cable to get the maximum i/o speed. There are several steps:

- First I go through all the files rating them and picking the ones I like. This often means going back and forth between images and reviewing in individual images at 100% to make sure its sharp and in focus. It is very annoying if the system is slow in doing this operation

- Then I lovingly correct the best images to correct colour balance, exposure, redo the lighting etc. I can put up with the system being a bit slow during this operation.

I actually have three systems that I use to edit my pictures in Lightroom, depending on whether I'm travelling or at home. I think that if you're just editing in Lightroom - and not doing something very complex in Photoshop with multiple layers - then 3GB of RAM is enough. I have Lightroom open at the moment with a D800 image and the program is using less than 300MB of RAM.

I think that the problem is your CPU which needs to render the image every time you click on it or make a modification.

Here is a link to the passmark table of CPU's : https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu_list.php

Your CPU has a Passmark of 1966. That's the same as my Surface 3 tablet (Atom Z78700). It's sluggish. Definitely not a good experience with D800 files inLIghtroom but I put up with it for short periods

My Ultrabook has an i5-4210U with a Passmark of 3383. It's better. I can put up with it.

The only system I have that I feel really comfortable with is 4 years old but it has a Core i7-2630-QM with a Passmark of 5560. That's almost three time the overall processing power of your system. The clock speed of each core is slower than yours but as it has 8 processing units which Lightroom can use the result is fast.

The only way to find out how your system performs is to try it out. It has a very fast clock speed but probably only a couple of cores.
All good points....

Here's a nice article on CORES and RAM and other hardware as used/needed by Photoshop:

https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/Adobe-Photoshop-CC-Multi-Core-Performance-625/

4 cores seems to be the minimum to recommend as suggested by the graphs...That's what I'm running....a 6-year old quad core i7-860 PC. With 16gb RAM and it's working smoothly though it is slow in transferring files FROM the camera due to having only USB2 connectivity...but once running and editing one to 3 single layer files at a time it's fine...

I can't vouch for batch processing of "mega" mega-bit files with multiple layers though.
 
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That's interesting. Some of the features that they tested are not available in Lightroom, which is the OP's target.

They didn't test batch RAW to JPG conversion which is an obvious CPU hog (100% usage all cores on my machine). However I learnt earlier on in the thread that in LR6 this operation can use the GPU on the video card. Must look at this more closely.
 
With my D810 I run with a 128G CF Sandisk Extreme Pro and a similar 128G SD card as overflow or backup. For processing I've got 16G RAM, 512 SSD primary drive, i7-930 and GTS-250 dual SLI graphics cards pushing 3@27" Dell U2711 monitors.

Upon import if you create the preview files then this will help speed up (but you have to wait longer during the import stage)

I find my rig too slow overall for the D810 compressed 14bit lossless files and I'll be upgrading to something with 32G of RAM, Nvidea 970 dual SLI, and Intel i7 4790K with some liquid cooling. Hopefully that will slice through the files like butter for the next 3-5 years :)

Xanth
 

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